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    Quote Originally Posted by Roham View Post
    I was at my friends house tonight and he typed 911 conspiracy into the youtube search engine. We spent at least an hour watching various clips.... Very interesting stuff. I've heard about these theories before but never really spent much time on them. Has anyone else seen some of these clips? If so, what are your thoughts on them? And one question I have is, why isn't there more talk about this? It seems no one really wants to even acknowledge it. The evidence is pretty straight forward in alot of aspects. If anyone is interested I will post the links of the specific clips I watched and found really well done. If there is even a chance that the government had something to do with it, shouldn't we get to the bottom of it right away?
    If you buy into that loose change crap, here is a site that debunks ALL of it... linky

    There isn't much talk about them because it was put out by a couple of retards. They make you think it is straightforward open and shut case.

    But yeah, go to www.mrtwig.net and dload episode 1009. Very funny if anything.
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    Bill, Barry, before this goes south fast. Here's what's up:

    Clinton was asked if he wanted Osama when he was in custody and Clinton said no. So, in that way, Clinton is responsible for all that happened at the hands of Osama and his group, 9/11's blood is on his hands.

    Bush, since sending troops to Iraq has quite a bit of blood on his hands too.

    So, like George and I have been saying, quit clinging to parties and throwing around the bi-partisan rhetoric.

    The surveys say that people believe the republicans can keep people safer, heck, they've been known as pro-military/defense since Lincoln's days. The other surveys say regardless of party, people really don't like the Bush administration.

    There, now you both have it your way, so let's not post anything else here that's going to turn into another communist/democrat thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacFU View Post
    Bill, Barry, before this goes south fast. Here's what's up:

    Clinton was asked if he wanted Osama when he was in custody and Clinton said no. So, in that way, Clinton is responsible for all that happened at the hands of Osama and his group, 9/11's blood is on his hands.

    Bush, since sending troops to Iraq has quite a bit of blood on his hands too.

    So, like George and I have been saying, quit clinging to parties and throwing around the bi-partisan rhetoric.

    The surveys say that people believe the republicans can keep people safer, heck, they've been known as pro-military/defense since Lincoln's days. The other surveys say regardless of party, people really don't like the Bush administration.

    There, now you both have it your way, so let's not post anything else here that's going to turn into another communist/democrat thread.
    Well your interpretation of "what"s up" is a very nice opinion and that's great for you but I really don't think your coca cola moderating is doing any good if anything, probably just the opposite. Quite frankly, I find your conclusion about Clinton being responsible for September 11th to be a ridiculous reach and far more inflamatory than anything that Barry and I have posted in this thread. Speaking of which, I've got to agree with Barry and take issue with your statement highlighted in bold that is absolutely not true. Barry's 100% right, the latest polls show that the American people think the Democrats in Congress would do a better job of dealing with terrorism.

    Here's one example http://www.pollingreport.com/terror.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacFU View Post

    Clinton was asked if he wanted Osama when he was in custody and Clinton said no.
    That is interesting. What were the circumstances of this? Whas Osama known as a terrorist at the time? Sorry, I am very ignorant when it comes to American politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew_goring View Post
    That is interesting. What were the circumstances of this? Whas Osama known as a terrorist at the time? Sorry, I am very ignorant when it comes to American politics.
    It was after the '96 WTC bombing, so yes.

    As for my coca-cola monitoring and inflammatory statements, it's simply to say both sides have blood on their hands so if this is going to turn into a thread about who's got the most blood on their hands then I pre-empted it so that everybody could just shut up. I'm not looking for everybody to play nice, I'm looking for everybody to just shut up about politics. 9/11 being a conspiracy has nothing to do with SERIOUS party politics. So, to start seriously arguing party politics in a thread as ridiculous as this one is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacFU View Post
    It was after the '96 WTC bombing, so yes.

    As for my coca-cola monitoring and inflammatory statements, it's simply to say both sides have blood on their hands so if this is going to turn into a thread about who's got the most blood on their hands then I pre-empted it so that everybody could just shut up. I'm not looking for everybody to play nice, I'm looking for everybody to just shut up about politics. 9/11 being a conspiracy has nothing to do with SERIOUS party politics. So, to start seriously arguing party politics in a thread as ridiculous as this one is stupid.
    OK, I'm sorry, but I can't let this go uncorrected.

    The WTC Bombing was in 1993. Perps were jailed.

    The Sudan offered OBL to the Saudi's, who refused to take him. He was NEVER offered to Clinton.

    OK, now I'm out of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    OK, I'm sorry, but I can't let this go uncorrected.

    The WTC Bombing was in 1993. Perps were jailed.

    The Sudan offered OBL to the Saudi's, who refused to take him. He was NEVER offered to Clinton.

    OK, now I'm out of here.
    Wow, you're right Barry, it's been that long. My friend was in the hotel across the street when the vans blew. We were talking about it recently and we said '96. And yeah, OSB was offered to the Saudi's (his own royal family heritage) and they would have given him to us if we wanted, but it was never pressed. Thanks for the corrections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacFU View Post
    9/11 being a conspiracy has nothing to do with SERIOUS party politics. So, to start seriously arguing party politics in a thread as ridiculous as this one is stupid.
    I agree with you 100% Sean but the hate filled, left wing zealot Barry has never been able to help himself in cases like this which is stupid as you so correctly stated.
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    here's a problem,bill...lately you're coming off as a hateful right wing zealot....does that make barry wrong??


    hate can come from both sides...do i hate republicans??.......hell,no...i even vote for 'em...lots of 'em...

    do i hate right wing repugs...the christian right (bush,et al).....abso-fucking-lutely!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff View Post
    here's a problem,bill...lately you're coming off as a hateful right wing zealot....does that make barry wrong??


    hate can come from both sides...do i hate republicans??.......hell,no...i even vote for 'em...lots of 'em...

    do i hate right wing repugs...the christian right (bush,et al).....abso-fucking-lutely!!!
    Sid, that has to be one of the stupidest statements I've ever seen you post. How can you justify shit like that?

    The "problem" is Barry. Many people here are finding Barry's behavior to be offensive, over the top, hateful, etc. I take exception to what HE is saying and you pull your "Scotty" reasoning trying to turn it around on me. Nice try Sid but that dog won't hunt.

    And yes, Barry is "wrong" not for his liberal opininions but for his hateful attacks and lack of respect for people on this board. He's clearly toned it down in the past couple of day so why the hell are you starting shit with me after the fact?

    When you say you "hate" "right wing Republicans... the christian right," etc., to me you've shown your true colors those being that you have no tolerance and respect for people who have a difference of opinion by taking it to the extreme point that you say you "hate" them and that concerns me a great deal.

    If that's REALLY the kind of person you are then you're just as bad as Barry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff View Post
    here's a problem,bill...lately you're coming off as a hateful right wing zealot....does that make barry wrong??


    hate can come from both sides...do i hate republicans??.......hell,no...i even vote for 'em...lots of 'em...

    do i hate right wing repugs...the christian right (bush,et al).....abso-fucking-lutely!!!
    No, Sid - I think Bill is coming off as being very pissed off at Barry. While others may give a more "balanced" response, the message is the same. Is Bill on the "other side" of the issue? No doubt. Am I on the "other side" of the issue - I think that's pretty clear as well. How it's bein expressed has more to do with personal feelings, than with a logic argument.

    I am also not a real fan of the right-wing zealots, so I kinda sorta understand where you're coming from - but hate requires an awful lot of passion, Sid. I can't even begin to understand your "hate" - because there is absolutely nothing in the political process I truly "hate". I may strongly disagree with policies, but I don't "hate" them or the individuals behind them. It's really hard for me to be that passionate about hating anything...

    ...well... except for my ex-wife, but she's not in politics...

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