Why not just re-use the ones from the 5 vegas? My son is trying this experiment with a dog rocket. I bought these rockets on a whim, before, when I was a REAL noob - they're, gulp, , walgreen specials. Dominicans. I guess I've smoked worse. They were rather unpleasant when new (duh, been sitting on a shelf for who knows how long with no humidification). Who knows, they've been in the DR humi a while, maybe... We've had the cedar wrapped on one for several weeks, I'll post results when he smokes it.