Funny Story.

[chefchris]

Like i said in a previous post, i work in a sign shop. I get a call this morning and this guy is opening up a new tobacco store and needs a sign today. made the sign and he comes and gets it. it was a 3x8 size sign and he brought his car to come get it. once i saw him just standing by his car for a while, i went out to see if he needed some help and to talk to him. he was calling someone else up there to get the sign, when the guy showed up, he was driving a same sized car. idiot. anyways, i told him me and my buddy would drive down there after work and deliver it for them. they followed by telling me how cool i was.

in the midst of all that while waiting for the other guy to get there, i started asking the guy some questions about what he planned on keeping in stock. he then asked me what i had and what i enjoyed smoking. he started talking about cigars, and even though i'm a complete newb, i new more about alot of them than he did. that shouldn't be. in his defense, this is a tobacco superstore not a b&m.

after we made the plan to deliver it, he told the other guy to give me a cigar. i just assumed he meant when i got there after work, so i walked back inside. well the guy comes be-bopping in there with a cigar in mid air! you have to understand my boss, the most conservative guy i know. seriously, he shakes his head at the thought of me. now don't get me wrong, i am a christian, do doubt, but he is an old time kjv christian if you know what i mean. so anything like tatttoos, peircing, smoking cigars, listening to anything other than AFR, is blasphemy. me and him have already had discussions about this, i will post my side of it at the bottom in case anyone cares to read it.

any ways, i'm in the back and see this guy waving a cigar, so i ran up to the front grabbed it and threw it in my pocket. walked to the back and heard the door again, it's the other guy with two cigars in his hand, i quickly recovered them and snuck around my boss. if my boss had caught me with those, he would seriously fire me. i get to safety to look at my cigars and its some glass tube cigar called "Casino Gold" or some crap like that. i was dissapointed and handed them off to my swisher sweet smoking friend.

we delivered the sign to the guys and i wanted to browse through his humidor real quick. honestly, they had quite a nice selection, and excellent prices. the guy walks up behind me and says, see anything you like? i said, ya i had been wanting to try one of those Punch After Dinners but no one around here carries em. so the guy just gave it to me. Alright, no so bad after all, they got a free delivery, my friend got three dog rockets, and i got a free smoke. everybody wins!

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here's my quick argument that i talked about earlier. in my opinion, you have your absolutes and your grey areas. absolutes include things that I believe to be nothing but true. God exist. God is crazy in love with us. Jesus died for us, and so forth. Then there's your grey areas, where the Bible never really states whats wrong and whats right. Things like i said earlier: smoking, tattoos, piercings, social drinking, listening to things other than AFR, are things that i would classify under the grey area. in my opinion, man has made up his own rules for a lot of things, ecspeciall guys like my boss. he means wells and loves the Lord, but is just close minded about things and gets upset over things like people not dressing up for church or a loud praise and worship band. he's very conservative. it's people like him that say, ok, that generation before me had it right. king james verstion only! the only instruments that should be on stage are a piano and an organ. guys shouldn't grow long hair or have earrings. they leave no room for growth in a culture. for example, he may really worship the Lord singing old hyms. that fantastic, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, but i may worship Him through some band that you can't understand what he's saying. both sides have done nothing wrong until someone points the finger and says, "You can't worship God that way." more times than not, it's the old conservatives saying this.

anyways, sorry for rambling, and if you took the time to read that, thank you!

wow, i just typed a whole lot. sorry guys.

[cigar no baka]

Great post, I have to agree with most of what you said on religion. Man has added a lot to what Jesus said and God intended to be in Christianity. Religion would be a much better thing if people just stopped messing it up.

[FunkyCold5]

Schweet! Now you got the inside scoop. If you ever need rare cigars, they can hook you up being a chain retailer. Always nice to have good connections.

[rsanz]

I mean there's all sorts of useful advice in the bible relevent for modern living.

Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, animal sacrifices, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.

You can burn a bull at the alter as it creates a pleasing odour for the lord (so I guess he appreciates a good smoke). But I'm not aware about of anything smoking cigars.

All useful stuff to live your life by if you're that way inclined I suppose, though personally I've always liked to have a few oysters and a cigar after a hard days work on Sundays (fuck knows how many different types of thread I've got in my clothes)!

rich

[SmokinDVM]

Nice score on the Punch.

If I were to add my opinion on religion, it would have to be in the politics forum, and even then would probably rile up another ban poll.

[drew_goring]

I mean there's all sorts of useful advice in the bible relevent for modern living.

Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, animal sacrifices, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.

You can burn a bull at the alter as it creates a pleasing odour for the lord (so I guess he appreciates a good smoke). But I'm not aware about of anything smoking cigars.

All useful stuff to live your life by if you're that way inclined I suppose, though personally I've always liked to have a few oysters and a cigar after a hard days work on Sundays (fuck knows how many different types of thread I've got in my clothes)!

rich

Who the hell are you?

[Lopaka]

Nice post. Religion and Politics are just those two subjects that people have their own interpretation on. Even if their beliefs are the same at the base, like Conservative Republican or Southern Baptist people still have different views on more specific matters. It's always interesting, for me, seeing how people have their different views and why.

A bud of mine is a Southern Baptist however he's very picky about the church he goes to because if the band is not traditional it's not right for him. To each their own.

[rsanz]

Who the hell are you?

I'm a cigar smoking, oyster eating blasphemer from way down under.

Hell of a nice collection of cars there mate.

Rich.

[drew_goring]

I'm a cigar smoking, oyster eating blasphemer from way down under.

Hell of a nice collection of cars there mate.

Rich.

That's cool...feel free to properly introduce yourself.

[chefchris]

I mean there's all sorts of useful advice in the bible relevent for modern living.

Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, animal sacrifices, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.

You can burn a bull at the alter as it creates a pleasing odour for the lord (so I guess he appreciates a good smoke). But I'm not aware about of anything smoking cigars.

All useful stuff to live your life by if you're that way inclined I suppose, though personally I've always liked to have a few oysters and a cigar after a hard days work on Sundays ( knows how many different types of thread I've got in my clothes)!

rich

hey, nice to meet you, too. although, i don't remember your name, i'm sure you told me.

[chefchris]

well, the funniest thing, i could've sworn you introduced yourself but i searched everywhere. i didn't see anything. hmmm. odd.

[Lopaka]

well, the funniest thing, i could've sworn you introduced yourself but i searched everywhere. i didn't see anything. hmmm. odd.

Actually no he hasn't and he either didn't read my post or is ignoring it.

I only titled it Hey Rsanz

[chefchris]

Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, animal sacrifices, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.

You can burn a bull at the alter as it creates a pleasing odour for the lord (so I guess he appreciates a good smoke). But I'm not aware about of anything smoking cigars.

rich

you ever heard of the New Testament?

[drew_goring]

you ever heard of the New Testament?

Well, shit, it was only written in about 100AD

[chefchris]

Well, shit, it was only written in about 100AD

truth is truth.

[cigarsarge]

you ever heard of the New Testament?

The New Testament has a completely different feel. Modern Christianity is pretty much based on it. Both are intersting but different.

[SmokinDVM]

The New Testament has a completely different feel. Modern Christianity is pretty much based on it. Both are intersting but different.

And equally fictitious.

[cls515]

I mean there's all sorts of useful advice in the bible relevent for modern living.

Agreed.

Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.

Please provide specific references to scripture as I have read the Bible and don't remember reading what you have written above. I do recall the Bible talking about slavery, but I believe it said if you are a slave you should be the best slave you can be.

[rsanz]

Agreed.


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Originally Posted by rsanz View Post
Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.


Please provide specific references to scripture as I have read the Bible and don't remember reading what you have written above. I do recall the Bible talking about slavery, but I believe it said if you are a slave you should be the best slave you can be.

Okay, in as far as i can get to order...

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Leviticus 25:44

Exodus 21:7

Exodus 35:2

Lev. 11:10 (I was wrong, eating shelfish is a slightly lesser abomination than homosexuality)

Lev.19:19

Lev.1:9 (smoking a bull for the lord)

Forgive me if I've got them a bit mixed up, I haven't got a bible in the house for reference anymore.

Introduction of sorts. Surely you can see this is just my 4th post, so I'm a newbie here. I guess you know my stance regarding the separation of cigars and religion. I'm a 30 somthing bloke working for a pretty successfull local film company and have only recently been able to splash out on a few boxes of nice cigars. I haven't even got myself a humidor yet (but to be honest, I haven't really had any around long enought to require storing). Though, that should change very soon.

Anyway chefchris, I'm glad you've got a good source for cigars, but your boss sounds like an complete ass!

Cheers
Rich

Shit it's 11:11pm and it's just dawned on me that I didn't have smoke today! Bit bloody late now.