Duel Citizenship

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 11-24-2006, 10:07 AM

I went online to Askmen.com and found out about ten countries which you can almost buy your self a duel citizenship. Belize appears to be the easiest among them, with $1000 deposit if you are over 45 and a non-Belize income of $24K. So for all you fellow turkey stuffed Americans, this is like a gravy train to Cuba! And a nice retirement place!

**Newfie** · 11-24-2006, 10:14 AM

Jon, I have a cousin who just moved to Belize. She loves it there.

Her & her daughter opened a Restaurant / Internet Cafe there and doing very well.

**cigar no baka** · 11-24-2006, 10:38 AM

I'm seriously thinking of retiring to either Central America or the Carribean, so that is good to hear. Want a nice quiet place where I can run a small business, smoke, drink and relax in my silver years.

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 11-24-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

I'm seriously thinking of retiring to either Central America or the Carribean, so that is good to hear. Want a nice quiet place where I can run a small business, smoke, drink and relax in my silver years.

I've often times thought about retiring to Costa Rica. Only 38 years and 2 months away!

Originally Posted by Newfie

Jon, I have a cousin who just moved to Belize. She loves it there.

Her & her daughter opened a Restaurant / Internet Cafe there and doing very well.

Hmm, might be the making of the next vacation destination. Do you, by chance, know anyone in Puerto Rico?

**nhcigarfan** · 11-24-2006, 11:44 AM

Dual citizenship will not alter the potential impact to a US citizen with regards to the Cuban embargo.

Also, the State Department may require you to forfeit your US citizenship if you choose to become a citizen of another country. It's not the same as if you parent was a citizen or something.

**Roham** · 11-24-2006, 12:37 PM

If you are an American, you can go to Cuba by just flying out of either Canada or Mexico. Cuba doesn't stamp passports, they give you a seperate piece of paper just for this reason, so you won't have trouble getting back to U.S.A. Tons of Americans vacation in Cuba every year... Both times I have gone I have meet a couple Americans. Just fly down to Mexico(or Canada) and book a flight from there.... Getting duel citizenship seems like alot of work just to go when a $500 plane ride will do you just fine

**Newfie** · 11-24-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan

snip... Do you, by chance, know anyone in Puerto Rico?

Well, when I was in San Juan Puerto Rico for 5 hours on Monday, January 14, 2002, I did meet a bartender named Juan. Does that do you any good??

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 11-24-2006, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Newfie

Well, when I was in San Juan Puerto Rico for 5 hours on Monday, January 14, 2002, I did meet a bartender named Juan. Does that do you any good??

Man, no last name? I'm going to have a heck of a time trying to find a bartender named Juan down there. Guess all my time will be spent buying Hurricane's instead of laying on the beach.

Originally Posted by Roham

If you are an American, you can go to Cuba by just flying out of either Canada or Mexico. Cuba doesn't stamp passports, they give you a seperate piece of paper just for this reason, so you won't have trouble getting back to U.S.A. Tons of Americans vacation in Cuba every year... Both times I have gone I have meet a couple Americans. Just fly down to Mexico(or Canada) and book a flight from there.... Getting duel citizenship seems like alot of work just to go when a $500 plane ride will do you just fine

Hmm..., I can really fly down to Cuba? That is awesome!

**drew_goring** · 11-24-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan

Man, no last name? I'm going to have a heck of a time trying to find a bartender named Juan down there. Guess all my time will be spent buying Hurricane's instead of laying on the beach.

Hmm..., I can really fly down to Cuba? That is awesome!

Legally...no.

**Newfie** · 11-24-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by drew_goring

Legally...no.

Drew's right. Legally, no. But it happens all the time.

I hear that about 70% of the passengers flying to Cuba out of Windsor Ontario are Americans.

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 11-24-2006, 04:44 PM

Well, legally- Damn.

**drew_goring** · 11-24-2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan

Well, legally- Damn.

Well, it is only against the law if you get caught!

**Roham** · 11-25-2006, 05:04 AM

It's near impossible to get caught.... Just don't bring back any cuban cigars or rum.... They don't stamp your passport. And cuba doesn't mind americans. It's only the Americans that mind....

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 11-25-2006, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Roham

It's near impossible to get caught.... Just don't bring back any cuban cigars or rum.... They don't stamp your passport. And cuba doesn't mind americans. It's only the Americans that mind....

So if i dont bring anything back, customs won't know. I guess i cannot use a credit card down there either, huh?

**drew_goring** · 11-25-2006, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan

So if i dont bring anything back, customs won't know. I guess i cannot use a credit card down there either, huh?

I believe if you get American money changed into CUC, then you are charged a 10% surcharge.

Wouldn't it be mostly cash only down there anyways?

**Roham** · 11-25-2006, 02:22 PM

Oh ya, that's another thing, they accept Visa and MC as long as it's not from an American bank. I don't know how many times I was asked that, "Is the credit card from an american bank?", I'd tell them no it's from a Canadian bank, then no problem. So ya, as a U.S. citizen you'd be spending cash for sure.... I think Drew is right, it'd be cheaper to bring Canadian currency down there if you can. Less of a surcharge.

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 11-25-2006, 03:06 PM

Well, if i got duel citizenship with say Belize, and the US didn't require me to 'cancel' my US citizenship, then I could fly back to Belize and then to the US with my Belize passport under the guise of being a Belizean. So assuming that the US is cool with 'sharing the love' I could go to Cuba as a Belize resident? I bet US rules would still somehow apply, bummer.

**tampacigargirl** · 11-25-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan

Well, if i got duel citizenship with say Belize, and the US didn't require me to 'cancel' my US citizenship, then I could fly back to Belize and then to the US with my Belize passport under the guise of being a Belizean. So assuming that the US is cool with 'sharing the love' I could go to Cuba as a Belize resident? I bet US rules would still somehow apply, bummer.

As I understand it, you can go to Cuba, but the FBI still flags your file for going.

**Roham** · 11-25-2006, 04:43 PM

How will the FBI flag you if they don't know you went?

**Roham** · 11-25-2006, 04:44 PM

It doesn't matter what passport you use, Cuba doesn't stamp it. Even as a Canadian, if Cuba stamped my passport, then I would have mucho problems getting into America next time.