This crap is over. john51277 and CoventryCat86 have both been permanently banned. I'm done with this BS.

Bill, while I do think you may have good intentions deep down your methods of conveying yourself are simply not inline with the vision's I have for the future of Cigarsmokers.com. You have really left me no choice.

To the rest of you, this is now over. I'm going to be changing a few things around here in the next few weeks as far as rules/policies go. I want to avoid going down this path again.