Cuban Embargo

**pub spears** · 05-30-2007, 09:17 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=0 So maybe 1 day the embargo will end, prices will rise, quality will fall, and eventually a correct medium will follow ? Is this the general consensus?

**drew_goring** · 05-30-2007, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by pub spears

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=0 So maybe 1 day the embargo will end, prices will rise, quality will fall, and eventually a correct medium will follow ? Is this the general consensus?

Pretty much. It is going to happen. Maybe not in the near future, but in my lifetime for sure. I am not looking forward to that day. (IMO anyways)

**Newfie** · 05-30-2007, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by drew_goring

Pretty much. It is going to happen. Maybe not in the near future, but in my lifetime for sure. I am not looking forward to that day. (IMO anyways)

Yup, yup, yup and yup

**chefchris** · 05-30-2007, 10:39 PM

i can't wait for the day that i can get my hands on a Cubano.

**ggiese** · 05-30-2007, 10:46 PM

It is coming - when is the question... Prices will no doubt jump (at least initially) and product will become scarcer.

What I'm wondering, though - will cigar manufacturers (as I suspect) start blending other tobacco's with Cuban tobacco? It would seem to me that would be the logical thing to do - at least in some cases. And I'd be really interested to test the final product. Especially with how well the quality of NC has improved over the last several years.

Can you imagine a special blend Opus X and Cuban tobacco? Or an Anejo/Cuban hybrid? Even better yet - age the blends with Cuban tobacco like some of the special editions that have come out in recent years (i.e. LE05). Maybe SE Cuban blend Davidoff's? Or LE versions of Padron 26's and '64's? Maybe Ashton VSG/Cubans?

**Kass** · 05-30-2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

It is coming - when is the question... Prices will no doubt jump (at least initially) and product will become scarcer.

What I'm wondering, though - will cigar manufacturers (as I suspect) start blending other tobacco's with Cuban tobacco? It would seem to me that would be the logical thing to do - at least in some cases. And I'd be really interested to test the final product. Especially with how well the quality of NC has improved over the last several years.

Can you imagine a special blend Opus X and Cuban tobacco? Or an Anejo/Cuban hybrid? Even better yet - age the blends with Cuban tobacco like some of the special editions that have come out in recent years (i.e. LE05). Maybe SE Cuban blend Davidoff's? Or LE versions of Padron 26's and '64's? Maybe Ashton VSG/Cubans?

I was actually thinking about this the other day... Why has this not happened yet, or has it? There must be a big enough market outside the states for cigars like this to sell.

**drew_goring** · 05-31-2007, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Kass

I was actually thinking about this the other day... Why has this not happened yet, or has it? There must be a big enough market outside the states for cigars like this to sell.

Which is why I don't think we are going to see much going on for cuban/non-cuban blends when (if) the embargo is lifted.

I can't see Davidoff just strutting in with a Cuban blend...not after the way they left Cuba.

**prophetic_joe** · 05-31-2007, 02:03 AM

They actually started talking about this on the Dogwatch the other day. The consensus there was that since all cuban cigars are actually owned by the cuban government they don't believe they will actually sell just tobacco anywhere. I would thing this is actually a pretty good reason considering the lower amount of quality control that cuba has as far as their smokes go. I wouldn't doubt that if Fuente got there hands on some cuban tobacco and started creating blends with it that it would take away some of the sales from Cuban Puros, the cuban government most likely doesn't ig that idea a whole bunch.

**Roham** · 05-31-2007, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Newfie

Yup, yup, yup and yup

It's the Canadians agreeing with eachother...

**nhcigarfan** · 05-31-2007, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Roham

It's the Canadians agreeing with eachother...

lol

**Merlin390** · 05-31-2007, 09:15 AM

Has anyone stopped to think about the copyright problems? There are currently two Cohiba's, Romeo y Julieta's etc.

**ggiese** · 05-31-2007, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by prophetic_joe

They actually started talking about this on the Dogwatch the other day. The consensus there was that since all cuban cigars are actually owned by the cuban government they don't believe they will actually sell just tobacco anywhere. I would thing this is actually a pretty good reason considering the lower amount of quality control that cuba has as far as their smokes go. I wouldn't doubt that if Fuente got there hands on some cuban tobacco and started creating blends with it that it would take away some of the sales from Cuban Puros, the cuban government most likely doesn't ig that idea a whole bunch.

Yeah - but not all of the cuban tobacco is put into cigars rolled in Cuba. There is still a certain portion that is shipped out at raw tobacco.

And I think, given a significant monetary incentive, the Cuban government will do whatever the big companies want to do...

BTW - Ya buncha goofy Canucks - when is someone going to tell me what the $2 coin is called??? Inquiring minds wanna know!!!

**Kass** · 05-31-2007, 06:04 PM

Hahah...it's called a toonie.

**drew_goring** · 05-31-2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Merlin390

Has anyone stopped to think about the copyright problems? There are currently two Cohiba's, Romeo y Julieta's etc.

In Canada right now you can buy both varieties in every stick, except for Punch. Due to copyright rulings the Cuban Punch cannot be legally sold in Canada.

**cigar no baka** · 05-31-2007, 07:57 PM

Bah, I smoke all the Cubans I want right now, so it makes no difference for me.

**chefchris** · 06-01-2007, 09:25 AM

I'm from Mississippi and I kick ass. I don't need you to tell me that.

**Merlin390** · 06-01-2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by bigsmoke

Go to the middle east and see how long you yanks last.

Im going there in about a year with a new company I will start work for. All I am taking is my lap top, some cloths, my humidor, a M4, bayonet, and 1911. The company said they would provide body armor and ammo.

**rsanz** · 06-01-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by prophetic_joe

They actually started talking about this on the Dogwatch the other day. The consensus there was that since all cuban cigars are actually owned by the cuban government they don't believe they will actually sell just tobacco anywhere. I would thing this is actually a pretty good reason considering the lower amount of quality control that cuba has as far as their smokes go. I wouldn't doubt that if Fuente got there hands on some cuban tobacco and started creating blends with it that it would take away some of the sales from Cuban Puros, the cuban government most likely doesn't ig that idea a whole bunch.

You can get Cuban/Honduran blended cigars and loose cuban leaf (for your own blends I guess) from

. Oops, no discussion of sources. Lets just say www.dong...

...abriel.net

It's in their home blend.

**cls515** · 06-01-2007, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Merlin390

Im going there in about a year with a new company I will start work for. All I am taking is my lap top, some cloths, my humidor, a M4, bayonet, and 1911. The company said they would provide body armor and ammo.

Sounds hardcore. Goodluck with that, hope you stay safe.