One Question...

[Corvin]

How can you break the law when you're not in the country?

Arnie guilty of in-Fidelity to cigar laws

Busted for smoking an ISOM in Canada where it's legal, how is that possible?

[chefchris]

How can you break the law when you're not in the country?

Arnie guilty of in-Fidelity to cigar laws

Busted for smoking an ISOM in Canada where it's legal, how is that possible?

as Americans, we are not allowed to partake anywhere. It's illegal for us outside of the country as well.

[nhcigarfan]

In personam jurisdiction.

It is legal jurisdiction over the person. It occurs when:

1: You are present in the jurisdiction and properly served.

2: You are domiciled in the Jurisdiction

3: You consent to Jurisdiction

4: You have minim contacts with the Jurisdiction.

I Don't remember exactly the case but if you're a citizen, the Federal Government has jurisdiction over you at all times regardless of where you are located. I believe it falls under the consent provision. You consent by being a citizen. Now this only applies to certain laws, such as the trading with the enemy's act, which the Cuban embargo falls under now. That's why pre-trading with the enemy act, you could bring back something like 5 Cuban cigars purchased overseas without a problem. Now it's totally illegal.

[pub spears]

I read that it is only legal to purchase ANYTHING Cuban if you purchase in Cuba while legally there. Also the limit is $100 American. I also read that the house and senate voted themselves an excemption to the embargo back in the 90's. Guess they forgot to include governors.

[Roham]

Cubans dont stamp passports. You get a little piece of paper stamped. I'm not sure why. I would assume it's because you could have problems going to the USA with it in your passport.

[cigar no baka]

Cubans dont stamp passports. You get a little piece of paper stamped. I'm not sure why. I would assume it's because you could have problems going to the USA with it in your passport.

Hallelujah!!

[HersheyWalker]

In personam jurisdiction.

It is legal jurisdiction over the person. It occurs when:

1: You are present in the jurisdiction and properly served.

2: You are domiciled in the Jurisdiction

3: You consent to Jurisdiction

4: You have minim contacts with the Jurisdiction.

I Don't remember exactly the case but if you're a citizen, the Federal Government has jurisdiction over you at all times regardless of where you are located. I believe it falls under the consent provision. You consent by being a citizen. Now this only applies to certain laws, such as the trading with the enemy's act, which the Cuban embargo falls under now. That's why pre-trading with the enemy act, you could bring back something like 5 Cuban cigars purchased overseas without a problem. Now it's totally illegal.

I did not know that.

[pub spears]

Cubans dont stamp passports. You get a little piece of paper stamped. I'm not sure why. I would assume it's because you could have problems going to the USA with it in your passport.

Yes it could possibly be so that someone could hypothetically visit that country from a 3rd party country and then easily remove the evidence from thier passport. It should also be noted that if someone were to hypothetically visit that country illegally and get into a jam....Youre f'd. No embassy help, no medical insurance coverage there or when you hypothetically returned, no rights. Check back !

[597]

In personam jurisdiction.

It is legal jurisdiction over the person. It occurs when:

1: You are present in the jurisdiction and properly served.

2: You are domiciled in the Jurisdiction

3: You consent to Jurisdiction

4: You have minim contacts with the Jurisdiction.

I Don't remember exactly the case but if you're a citizen, the Federal Government has jurisdiction over you at all times regardless of where you are located. I believe it falls under the consent provision. You consent by being a citizen. Now this only applies to certain laws, such as the trading with the enemy's act, which the Cuban embargo falls under now. That's why pre-trading with the enemy act, you could bring back something like 5 Cuban cigars purchased overseas without a problem. Now it's totally illegal.

Damit! I thought I was done with Civil Procedure.

[nhcigarfan]

Unfortunately Civ. Pro. never goes away, it just keeps getting more complicated.

[597]

There are also other US laws that apply worldwide. One, which is recently in the news, is a conspiracy to overthrow a government that the US is at peace with (it applies to all US citizens regardless of location). This conspiracy involves US citizens in an attempt to overthrow Laos communist government through supplying weapons as well as strategies for demolishing government buildings. The article is here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070605/...us/laos_plot_8

[cigar no baka]

Another one that applies no matter where you go: if you become inolved in child prostitution, you can be prosecuted when you return to the US in the US by US courts.

[supergirl]

I learned a lot from this thread.