Secret Santa 2007

**slcraiders** · 11-05-2007, 08:05 PM

I do not mean to sound like an ass, but I feel that folks should have a trading history. Even if it is a small bomb, PIF or something before jumping in on a Secret Santa. I know we face a catch 22 where people need to be given opportunities to establish a history. There are plenty of those on this board including the newbie sampler thread. Secret Santa is a tad larger in scale for first-timers, imho. When I first started, I thought that I "got it", but in retrospect, it took me a little while trading and PIF'ing etc. to really "get it".

**prostartjr1738** · 11-05-2007, 08:36 PM

Ill sign up. I know im knew here but I would like to be given a shot. If some kind of test is required to prove I will give my word just let me know what it is.

**slcraiders** · 11-05-2007, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by prostartjr1738

Ill sign up. I know im knew here but I would like to be given a shot. If some kind of test is required to prove I will give my word just let me know what it is.

Yeppers. A spelling test and you already failed..

**drew_goring** · 11-05-2007, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by slcraiders

I do not mean to sound like an ass, but I feel that folks should have a trading history. Even if it is a small bomb, PIF or something before jumping in on a Secret Santa. I know we face a catch 22 where people need to be given opportunities to establish a history. There are plenty of those on this board including the newbie sampler thread. Secret Santa is a tad larger in scale for first-timers, imho. When I first started, I thought that I "got it", but in retrospect, it took me a little while trading and PIF'ing etc. to really "get it".

Originally Posted by prostartjr1738

Ill sign up. I know im knew here but I would like to be given a shot. If some kind of test is required to prove I will give my word just let me know what it is.

Read the post above yours please.

**prostartjr1738** · 11-05-2007, 08:58 PM

I read the post and thats why I asked. He did not specify if one would be required or not. And if one was required what it would be, just trying to play by the rules, this way if I was to participate in a smaller trade, it would be known to whoever is going to be running the Secret Santa. I know you guys don't know me from a hole in the wall, thats why im trying to get it straight before I go ahead and do something.

**heftysmokes** · 11-05-2007, 09:07 PM

Lopaka should be in fo' sho'

If he was my SS, I would love to get some kind of item that was unique to the area he was stationed; I've got plenty of cigars, but no Iraqi snow globes (or whatever it might be)!

**prophetic_joe** · 11-06-2007, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by heftysmokes

Lopaka should be in fo' sho'

If he was my SS, I would love to get some kind of item that was unique to the area he was stationed; I've got plenty of cigars, but no Iraqi snow globes (or whatever it might be)!

I completely agree. If anyone deserves to be involved in this it is one of the guys defending people he doesn't even know. Lopaka if you happen to be my SS I'll take whatever you feel comfortable giving bear in mind you're already giving a heck of a lot.

BTW count me in.

**drew_goring** · 11-06-2007, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by slcraiders

Let him in. It would suck to be away from home on Christmas! Situations like this make the Secret Santa thing all that much more meaningful...

Originally Posted by heftysmokes

Lopaka should be in fo' sho'

If he was my SS, I would love to get some kind of item that was unique to the area he was stationed; I've got plenty of cigars, but no Iraqi snow globes (or whatever it might be)!

Originally Posted by prophetic_joe

I completely agree. If anyone deserves to be involved in this it is one of the guys defending people he doesn't even know. Lopaka if you happen to be my SS I'll take whatever you feel comfortable giving bear in mind you're already giving a heck of a lot.

BTW count me in.

Definitely agreed. Good to hear you're participating too Nate.

**Lopaka** · 11-05-2007, 08:48 PM

I would like to participate however I don't have any cigars that are mine left. All I have are smokes sent to me, so it would be wrong for me to send them. Also, being in the middle of war zone...

I'm in the middle of Iraq for those that don't know,

I have access to fakes and AF bottom of the line brands.

Now, if someone, don't mind getting the AF and something from OIF I will participate. However, if I'm your SS, please be patient because it is coming from here and I can't guarantee it will get there before Christmas.

Plus, since my humi is being babysitted by GCN2, who ever is my Santa is would have to wait until I got back in mid Jan to send mine.

If this is fine for everyone...then I'm game. If not, no problem and I'll be game next year.

Lopaka

**slcraiders** · 11-05-2007, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Lopaka

I would like to participate however I don't have any cigars that are mine left. All I have are smokes sent to me, so it would be wrong for me to send them. Also, being in the middle of war zone...

I'm in the middle of Iraq for those that don't know,

I have access to fakes and AF bottom of the line brands.

Now, if someone, don't mind getting the AF and something from OIF I will participate. However, if I'm your SS, please be patient because it is coming from here and I can't guarantee it will get there before Christmas.

Plus, since my humi is being babysitted by GCN2, who ever is my Santa is would have to wait until I got back in mid Jan to send mine.

If this is fine for everyone...then I'm game. If not, no problem and I'll be game next year.

Lopaka

Let him in. It would suck to be away from home on Christmas! Situations like this make the Secret Santa thing all that much more meaningful...

**TampaSupremo** · 11-06-2007, 05:20 PM

Too late to get in on this???

TampaSupremo

**slkr4life** · 11-06-2007, 09:43 PM

OK I will take it that since it was under my reply on page 3 of this thread that perhaps i am the one that doesn't have enough history to be trusted to participate. No Biggie, however would like to point out i am not trying to scam. Just got back from a year in Baghdad (hence the pic with IBA on and Groucho Marx mask my son sent me) and thought this sounded fun. Actually kinda of amusing that people are peered out of a Secret Santa. You sirs, shall go on the naughty list.

Have fun guys, except for SLCRaiders who peered out a fellow soldier who just returned (Think i mentioned this in my first post about the importance of sending sticks to guys in Iraq). You shall now go down in the books as a true Blue Falcon. Just kidding knucklehead, be safe and remember, that's not tobacco in Haji's Hookah.

Chief

**drew_goring** · 11-06-2007, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by slkr4life

OK I will take it that since it was under my reply on page 3 of this thread that perhaps i am the one that doesn't have enough history to be trusted to participate. No Biggie, however would like to point out i am not trying to scam. Just got back from a year in Baghdad (hence the pic with IBA on and Groucho Marx mask my son sent me) and thought this sounded fun. Actually kinda of amusing that people are peered out of a Secret Santa. You sirs, shall go on the naughty list.

Have fun guys, except for SLCRaiders who peered out a fellow soldier who just returned (Think i mentioned this in my first post about the importance of sending sticks to guys in Iraq). You shall now go down in the books as a true Blue Falcon. Just kidding knucklehead, be safe and remember, that's not tobacco in Haji's Hookah.

Chief

Trust here is earned...and the Secret Santa is certainly not a place to begin earning it. Try the newbie sampler and work your way up from there.

**Stephen** · 11-06-2007, 10:03 PM

I'd like to get in on this.

I don't post much but Roham can over see my pass to make sure it meets the standard.

**drew_goring** · 11-06-2007, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Stephen

I'd like to get in on this.

I don't post much but Roham can over see my pass to make sure it meets the standard.

Any friend of Roham is good to go in my books.

**koolhandk** · 11-06-2007, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by slkr4life

OK I will take it that since it was under my reply on page 3 of this thread that perhaps i am the one that doesn't have enough history to be trusted to participate. No Biggie, however would like to point out i am not trying to scam. Just got back from a year in Baghdad (hence the pic with IBA on and Groucho Marx mask my son sent me) and thought this sounded fun. Actually kinda of amusing that people are peered out of a Secret Santa. You sirs, shall go on the naughty list.

Have fun guys, except for SLCRaiders who peered out a fellow soldier who just returned (Think i mentioned this in my first post about the importance of sending sticks to guys in Iraq). You shall now go down in the books as a true Blue Falcon. Just kidding knucklehead, be safe and remember, that's not tobacco in Haji's Hookah.

Chief

If slkr4life must bow out, then I too must respectfully bow out of this. I must say, I was really looking forward to impressing my SS (had a really good idea for an extra and everything). I wasn't ever really sure about all this internet trade, but I was willing to take a chance, it being the holidays and all. It is sort of a shame that you guys feel that all first timers shouldn't be allowed to participate, but I understand that rules are rules, so I am willing to comply out of respect.

**slkr4life** · 11-06-2007, 10:43 PM

Didn't want to be a downer just wanted to point out that working seven days, fifteen hours a day for a year puts a damper on searching out cigar forums and chatting. Even the wife had the ass i didn't chat with her enough. I tried to keep my reply light and friendly but Drew your reply was pretty unnecessary and shows little character. Too bad because you seem to be great when talking and trading cigars.

Koolhandk thanks for the back up. Appreciate it. That by the way showed great character.

As i tried to say to begin with, have a good time guys. Just wanted to make sure i wasn't lumped in with the other gentleman that seemed to be a legitimate scammer. I don't post much but do enjoy the information.

**Shagaroo** · 11-06-2007, 11:10 PM

Well golly gee, as long as YOU say you aren't a scammer. I hope you aren't, but the simple fact is, we don't know you from Adam's housecat's butthole. Don't like it? We don't really care. Spend some time here getting to know people and letting us get to know you and earn your place and we will care. Until then, boo hoo.

I will give you a perfect example of why we are the way we are. There is this little cigar forum called CigarLive. People there let folks just walk in off the street, with zero credibility, and have all the rights and respect that folks who have put in the time to earn it have. Well, just this past week a well known scammer, using a new name, who promised he wasn't a scammer, took them for a shit ton of cigars. Now, the forum owner and all his little fanbois are trying to justify their own stupidity. Well, that won't happen here. Why? Because we hold your feet to the fire until you prove yourself. If that gets you all butt hurt, to bad. I am sure you can find the door.

**koolhandk** · 11-07-2007, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Shagaroo

Well golly gee, as long as YOU say you aren't a scammer. I hope you aren't, but the simple fact is, we don't know you from Adam's housecat's butthole. Don't like it? We don't really care. Spend some time here getting to know people and letting us get to know you and earn your place and we will care. Until then, boo hoo.

I will give you a perfect example of why we are the way we are. There is this little cigar forum called CigarLive. People there let folks just walk in off the street, with zero credibility, and have all the rights and respect that folks who have put in the time to earn it have. Well, just this past week a well known scammer, using a new name, who promised he wasn't a scammer, took them for a shit ton of cigars. Now, the forum owner and all his little fanbois are trying to justify their own stupidity. Well, that won't happen here. Why? Because we hold your feet to the fire until you prove yourself. If that gets you all butt hurt, to bad. I am sure you can find the door.

Wow. I am pretty sure I was respectful in my motion to decline. Shagaroo, let it be noted that both slkr4life and myself voluntarily declined to participate in this "Secret Santa." Additionally let it be noted that nowhere in the rules placed in this thread does it say that one must have a verified history of cigar trading. The request to not include first time traders was made after both myself and slkr4life signed up. After slcraider's posting we both declined when we could have easily stayed on like cowards instead of calling ourselves out. I can't speak for anyone but myself on the fact that I am not here to make enemies or to start any problems, but your reaction was slightly uncalled for, at least in your tone and choice of words. Although you don't know me and I don't know you, I would hope that you could afford me the common courtesy and respect that I have tried to show to all of you.

**drew_goring** · 11-07-2007, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Shagaroo

Well golly gee, as long as YOU say you aren't a scammer. I hope you aren't, but the simple fact is, we don't know you from Adam's housecat's butthole. Don't like it? We don't really care. Spend some time here getting to know people and letting us get to know you and earn your place and we will care. Until then, boo hoo.

I will give you a perfect example of why we are the way we are. There is this little cigar forum called CigarLive. People there let folks just walk in off the street, with zero credibility, and have all the rights and respect that folks who have put in the time to earn it have. Well, just this past week a well known scammer, using a new name, who promised he wasn't a scammer, took them for a shit ton of cigars. Now, the forum owner and all his little fanbois are trying to justify their own stupidity. Well, that won't happen here. Why? Because we hold your feet to the fire until you prove yourself. If that gets you all butt hurt, to bad. I am sure you can find the door.

I just slightly modified the rules. If anyone has any problem with it, please let me know. Apparently common sense isn't all that common.