I favor the torpedos & double robustos. Had a few lanceros that were on the weak side. I expect lanceros to be stronger, but that hasn't been the case for me and the V. Also, the double toro is a he-man stogie. Good, but alot of tobacco there. The one I had yesterday split about half way, but remained smokable with a few touch ups. Wasn't able to nub as it got sorta skanky at about 1 1/2". I'm giving $5 for double robustos and they are easily worth that to me. Can't wait to see the next Oliva. Saw somewhere they are calling it the Nub.