Fuente Fuente Opus X Forbidden X + 1 for raffle, to benefit the American Red Cross

[Hugh Jorgan]

Q: How do I know the cigars are what you say they are?

A: The person who gifted me the Opus X and I have had our personal differences, but there's never been a question about his integrity or the quality of his collection. In addition, the band, the sealed glass tube, etc, would make this a very difficult item to fake. I purchased the other cigar, a Partagas Salamone, in good faith from what I believe to be a reputable source. It looks great and smells great--to me, anyway. I have no doubts about its authenticity. But dumb newbies like me get ripped off all the time, right? So can we just consider it to be a bonus mystery cigar which may turn out to be a real treat? If you don't want to take a chance on it, I'll happily send you just the Opus X and dispose of the other cigar for you myself. Very happily, in fact.

Wow, Corona Gigante, you continue to shock me with your bullshit.

When I saw Nicholas (Corona Gigante) promoting this raffle with the Forbidden X and the mysterious unbanded Salamone, I was immediately reminded of an exchange of PMs we had on August 23rd, 2005, regarding a source Nicholas had been using to purchase 'cubans'.

Whenever I've felt rich--not often enough--I've done a bit of business with Joe XxXxxx at Vendor Z. I've generally been happy with the results. The boxes look kosher and the cigars taste fine after resting for a week or so. Still, I was wondering if you guys have heard anything positive or negative about him. He's based in Genève, he quotes all his prices in USD, the prices are competitive with Vendor C but shipping is included whereas Vendor C want to stick me for $40(!)

Your opinion would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Nicholas.

I would be very cautious about any "cubans" you have received from Vendor Z. I would highly recommend that you do not use them in passes or trades, but simply enjoy them yourself. The worst thing that can happen on the forums is to mistakenly pass fakes -- it is a black mark that is hard to live down.

[Will do. Or rather, won't do.

Thanks,

Nicholas.

The Vendor Z in question is an infamous purveyor of fake 'cubans'.

It has been confirmed by Corona Gigante that the Partagas Salamone that he included in the raffle, is in fact, one of the cigars he purchased from Vendor Z.
Corona Gigante was warned about the authenticity of all cigars he had received from Vendor Z on August 23, 2005 and he acknowledged the problem , yet here he claims he has no doubt about its authenticity? Bullshit.

Knowingly passing cigars of questionable origin is a classless and scumbag move. I have no doubt that Corona Gigante chose this cigar to help pad this raffle, and artificially increase it's potential value. Stating he had no doubt about the authenticity of Vendor Z or the Salamone is a blatant lie. Including the statement:

"But dumb newbies like me get ripped off all the time, right? So can we just consider it to be a bonus mystery cigar which may turn out to be a real treat? If you don't want to take a chance on it, I'll happily send you just the Opus X and dispose of the other cigar for you myself. Very happily, in fact."

..is a smoke screen when he knew the Salamone was questionable.

Nicholas, you are a scumbag.

[CoventryCat86]

You gotta be kidding me.

corona gigante, guys like you ultimately slit their own throats. Someone snapped this photo of a new gadget you recently installed in your back yard:



Looks like you want to make sure you don't miss

[alexgtp]

Oh crap!!..
Not good. If you have doubts about a cigar.. Why would you ever offer it up. Bad move.
EVen when a member on here warns you about this particular company. Not good.!

[godfather]

Hugh, thanks for your post, it's finally all coming together.

I QUOTE THIS FROM CORONA'S THREAD:

"I forget the name of it right now and the band fell off and rolled under the table just before I took the picture, but I promise you it smells as good as it looks."


THREAD: http://www.cigarsmokers.com/t2236-op...red-cross.html



Corona you REALLY are a scumbag. Hugh's post PROVES that you KNEW it may have been a FAKE and you DELIBERATELY TOOK THE BAND OFF because you were probably AFRAID someone may have been able to identify it as a FAKE by just looking at the BAND.

I'm through with your b.s. and your dishonesty. Do yourself a favor and LEAVE this forum. After seeing this, I can't understand why ANYONE would be BEHIND you now.

YOU'RE DONE