Die-Hard Collector

While I usually enjoy about 3-4 cigars per week I am really involved with storing 75-150 cigars of a very limited or sought after production run for long periods of time.

I usually pick a particularly sought after line, buy 3-6 boxes of them, and store them for in excess of 10 years. To prevent cross contamination of flavors from other cigars I usually use a seperate humidor for each brand/type I store. (I currently have 9 humidors devoted just to storing vintage stogies, including one that holds 200, 1992, Cuban, Montecristo #1's.)

Is anyone else involved in this type of collecting? Also, I am interested in making another investment, can anyone recommend a good, value appreciating, cigar?

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

I am interested in making another investment, can anyone recommend a good, value appreciating, cigar?

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Just my thoughts, don't come back in ten years and tell me they sucked. :smiley36:

Investment/ Limited edition

Cohiba 35th Anniversary Humidor / Cigars
'05 Bolivar Gold Medals
Cohiba EL Sublimes
Cohiba EL DC

Regular production for aging

Cohiba Esplendidos
Cohiba Siglo VI Tubos
Cohiba Lanceros
SLR DC Cab.
Punch DC Cab.
Partagas Lusitanias
Partagas 898 Varnished
H.Up Sir Winnies
VR Don Alejandro

Domestic Choice: Opus X "A" Master box

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

I usually pick a particularly sought after line, buy 3-6 boxes of them, and store them for in excess of 10 years. To prevent cross contamination of flavors from other cigars I usually use a seperate humidor for each brand/type I store. (I currently have 9 humidors devoted just to storing vintage stogies, including one that holds 200, 1992, Cuban, Montecristo #1's.)

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Why stockpile so many of one choice instead of diversifying your collection ?

One or two to keep untouched, and one to sample from over the years I can understand, but why 8 boxes?

I usually store 3-6 stogies of very limited or VERY expensive production runs. But, the large quantities that I store are usually cigars which are almost sure bets of being future classics. I prefer the large numbers because it can lead to a large payoff. (Enjoyment payoff, not financial payoff.) My large quantities are chosen carefully, and seriously pondered before investing such large quantities of money.

Are they all the same production box code? Do you diversify the source for variety?

I usuallyy try to diversify somewhat with the production code, but that is not always possible since I Live in Canada and there is not a lot of selsction up here. Anything I buy in such large quantities has to be special ordered from my local shop and the only varience I get comes from that one order.

Thanks for the information - enjoy the sticks I.E. ! :smiley37:

Whoa!! I must :smiley32: you sir for being able to do that.

I really don't think I could sit on 6-8 boxes of a single stick UNLESS it WAS for financial gain.....I mean I guess I agree with Hugh here. I enjoy trying different things and I couldn't imagine smoking 6-8 boxes of the same thing.....but nonetheless it is your time and money....be well and enjoy those sticks. :smiley4:

I'm curious, it sounds like you are using "desktop" style humidors - is that correct?

If I were you and didn't want to buy a large piece of furniture - I'd get a 150+ quart cooler and leave my cigars in their respective boxes inside the cooler. Inside the box you don't have to worry about "cross contamination" - I think the integtrity of the cigars will remain better if stored this way as well as having them in the box keeps track of exactly which items are belong to which box / factory / dates etc.

Desktops are thought to be best used for short term storage.

While the Coolidor solution is a great idea, (I actually did that for 3 years), I went humidor crazy a few years back and bought over a dozen humidors. (Mostly large 200 -300 count decorative humidors.) I keep them around my home as decoration pieces and as functional storage units.

As for the potential long term storage problems, all my humidors are retrofitted with resovior storage humidity elements. They can go unfilled for approximately 1 year each. Also, to ensure that I get proper humidity, I also use digital hygrometers with high/low memory settings. (If they ever go outside the 68-72 range I can see.) In addition to all this, I very rarely open the humidors. The more they are sealed the better they work.

Finally, I also enjoy trying new cigars. I just took delivery of my new 6 x 8 x 2.5 cabinet humidor for my study. It is equipped with a 110 volt, electronically controlled humidifier. If anyone had any questions about long term storage of cigars, I have pretty much seen it all. (Although I have probably only seen about 5% of what can happen. :smiley5: )

As for cross contmination between production runs, since I have to order all my cigars from the same store, they are all a very uniform production run. (There is very limited selection where I live so I must order them.)

Storing cigars for a long term can be very rewarding for the future.

Care to share some pictures of your set up? :smiley20: :smiley1:

My digital camera is currently indisposed, (Unstable Canoe + Sony Cybershot = Problem), but it should be fixed witin the next couple of days. I will post a new "Show me yours" thread with the pictures.

I am also interested in seeing what everyone else has in humidors/coolidors. Please post them if you can!

Just curious, how does $40 (US) weekly in cigar expenses fund this at Canadian prices? :smiley22:

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

While I usually enjoy about 3-4 cigars per week I am really involved with storing 75-150 cigars of a very limited or sought after production run for long periods of time.

I usually pick a particularly sought after line, buy 3-6 boxes of them, and store them for in excess of 10 years. To prevent cross contamination of flavors from other cigars I usually use a seperate humidor for each brand/type I store. (I currently have 9 humidors devoted just to storing vintage stogies, including one that holds 200, 1992, Cuban, Montecristo #1's.)

Is anyone else involved in this type of collecting? Also, I am interested in making another investment, can anyone recommend a good, value appreciating, cigar?

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Another curiousity, so you have been collecting cigars since you were 12 years old? :smiley36:

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

Another curiousity, so you have been collecting cigars since you were 12 years old? :smiley36:

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I was just wondering the same thing. :smiley24:

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

I usually pick a particularly sought after line, buy 3-6 boxes of them, and store them for in excess of 10 years.

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and all this on 40 U.S. a week.

Is your digital camera unindisposed yet? :smiley36:

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My digital camera is currently indisposed, (Unstable Canoe + Sony Cybershot = Problem), but it should be fixed witin the next couple of days. I will post a new "Show me yours" thread with the pictures.

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You promised us pictures but I don't remember seeing any.....

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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Is your digital camera unindisposed yet? :smiley36:



You promised us pictures but I don't remember seeing any.....

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Shit I forgot. I will snap a few with my digital Camera tonight and send em right on........

Please see my new post.

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

Please see my new post.

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WHAT new post? You reallly should be more specific than that........

It seems to me there are a number of issues pending here like how were you able to have been buying cigars since you were 12 years old, three to six boxes at a time on a budget of $40.00 per month :smiley24:

It is the post entitled "Humidor Pictures"

I explain the $40 estimate there.

Oh yeah, I have been collecting cigars since I have been 19 and many of my vintage cigars were bought as vintage cigars.

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

It is the post entitled "Humidor Pictures"

I explain the $40 estimate there.

Oh yeah, I have been collecting cigars since I have been 19 and many of my vintage cigars were bought as vintage cigars.

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Well please excuse some of us for wondering because you made this statement in a previous post:

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I usually pick a particularly sought after line, buy 3-6 boxes of them, and store them for in excess of 10 years.

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I would have been much less confusing if you had said "and PLAN TO store them....." because your original post leads everyone to believe that you've got first hand experience in aging cigars when in fact you do not. You've got to admit, some of your previous statements are certainlly misleading...........

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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Well please excuse some of us for wondering because you made this statement in a previous post:


I would have been much less confusing if you had said "and PLAN TO store them....." because your original post leads everyone to believe that you've got first hand experience in aging cigars when in fact you do not. You've got to admit, some of your previous statements are certainlly misleading...........

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Sorry to you or anyone else if I am being too confusing. That was not my intent at all.

Yes , misleading would be one way to say it. :smiley3:

I have to tell you Island Epi, after reviewing your previous posts, I have to wonder how exaggerated some of your statements may be.....

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

Yes , misleading would be one way to say it. :smiley3:

I have to tell you Island Epi, after reviewing your previous posts, I have to wonder how exaggerated some of your statments may be.....

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Sorry for using the words "store" them and not "Intend to store them", I am not exagerating anything man. I have no reason to lie here. I come here to share and gain knowledge and chat cigars with a bunch of knowledgeable people.

When I first replied to this thread a few months ago, I thought it was an interesting topic; a self proclaimed die-hard collector who is interested in discussing choices for long term aging.

I put some thought into it and posted my ideas. And waited...

What I found odd is that you never replied to your own post regarding what your choices would be or offered feedback to the choices I made! Hmmmm...

Looking back at it now, it is apparent that this was simply a "Look at me! Look at me! " post to impress the other members.

I ain't impressed. Fact is, I wonder if you know what the heck you are doing.

Six - eight boxes of the same production code from a single supplier? :smiley22:

How many cuban cigar marcas have you sampled from?,Which vitolas? What are you basing your purchasing decisions on? Money doesn't buy experience.

I see little in your posts regarding collecting cubans, besides Montecristo. You are aware that Montecristos are the most counterfeited cigars in the world correct? Yes, even in Canada.

..and if you have the $$$ invested in this level of cigar collecting , I sure wouldn't be going to my local Mega-Mart in the holiday / seasonal department and buying cheap ass digital hygrometers to watch the environmental conditions of my humidors.

are you guys sure IE isn't SFG? (really)

I'd put my money on this one more than I would've Corona Gigante.

Oh...by the way.....MY cigar collection would rival that of the corner gas station! Impressed?

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

..and if you have the $$$ invested in this level of cigar collecting , I sure wouldn't be going to my local Mega-Mart in the holiday / seasonal department and buying cheap ass digital hygrometers to watch the environmental conditions of my humidors.

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If you do a little checking around, you will find that a "cheap ass" Mega-Mart Hygrometer has tighter tolerances than most cigar store hygrometer's AND they can record/alert on spikes in Humidity and Temp. Just look the next time you are there,,,,,,


Also, I am not getting in any more fights on this forum so I am ending it here. In the next few months I will be going back to my home and I will take DETAILED pictures of my collection to send to you. I hope that will fix any doubt. In the mean time, you can see my pics in the post I just put up. (Please excuse the early generation camera phone.)

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

If you do a little checking around, you will find that a "cheap ass" Mega-Mart Hygrometer has tighter tolerances than most cigar store hygrometer's AND they can record/alert on spikes in Humidity and Temp. Just look the next time you are there,,,,,,


Also, I am not getting in any more fights on this forum so I am ending it here. In the next few months I will be going back to my home and I will take DETAILED pictures of my collection to send to you. I hope that will fix any doubt. In the mean time, you can see my pics in the post I just put up. (Please excuse the early generation camera phone.)

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Just a hint, considering the trouble you've gotten yourself in here lately, you'd be wise to drop the "look at me" shit for the time being.....

Pictures of your collection or pictures of your father's collection, it doesn't really matter.

The real issue here is that you might want to consider making less of an effort to impress us and more of an effort to supply factual information from your own personal experiences.

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

Also, I am not getting in any more fights on this forum so I am ending it here.

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This is classic! " I am ending it here. " Why?

Why not offer your line of reasoning for stock piling up to 8 boxes of the same vitola, of the same production code from the same supplier? Is that wise to put that much faith into one cigar of a single production from one vendor?

Have you researched authentication of habanos against counterfeits? What other experience do you have with other cuban cigar brands besides Montecristo? Have you researched quality hygrometers vs. the Mega-Mart variety? Do you salt test your hygrometers quarterly? What is the resale value of buying '92 Montes in 2003 in profitability compared to investing in 2003 Cohiba DC EL in 2003? Shall I continue?

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Originally Posted by Island Epicurean

I have pretty much seen it all. (Although I have probably only seen about 5% of what can happen. :smiley5: )

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Oh thank God!!! We need your expertise!!! Please write a book.... MinRonNee hasn't come up with an update recently...

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Originally Posted by MMAB

are you guys sure IE isn't SFG? (really)
MY cigar collection would rival that of the corner gas station! Impressed?
:smiley36:

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Showoff

:smiley36: :smiley36:

Anyone seen Island Epicurean? :smiley22:

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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Anyone seen Island Epicurean? :smiley22:

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no ,and honestly he could never post again and i wouldn't care :smiley20:

I was getting the scotty feel from him also. It's the huggy-kissy replies that got to me.

pompous, high-brow crap that got me.

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My cigar collection rivals that of many cigar shops.

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and that was only one comment!

And the damned violins! Holy :smiley35: !!! He HAD to be sure THOSE were in the picture!

Island E, I sincerely hope that you can learn from this. Stop trying to impress people. It's a sure way to make them dislike you. Not because you may have nicer things than others, but because it's a sign of insecurity. Let people like you for yourself (if that's possible) and not for what you possess.

I've got no problem with Island Epi sticking around here, I would just prefer that he stuck to discussing the things he was sincerely knowledgeable about.

er...... :smiley24:

I don't have a problem with Island being here either. I just dislike show-offs.

If you got it, that's cool. Just don't flaunt it.