My Best Buy EVER

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05-01-2006, 06:20 PM
toasty

My Best Buy EVER

Well, after about a month of searching everywhere, my regular cigar shop (Vilar Cigars) told me that Macabi on 8th street had about half a box left of the Opus X Perfexion's. So straight after work today I headed straight to Macabi. They had a limit of two, but I sweet talked the guy into giving me 4. I guess he was so used to ringing up the 2 limit, but I realized when I was in the car he had only charged me $30.00 for all 4 of the Opus's. So yeah...one hell of a buy...4 Fuente Fuente Opus X's for $7.50 a piece. I'm so tempted to light one up, but am wanting to let them age....dunno what to do as far as smoking one...let's see if I can avoid the temptation. Just had to brag about the great buy. :smiley41:
05-01-2006, 06:37 PM
bigpoppapuff

my guess is that your good luck will be his bad luck....he'll get charged for the cigars...so today he gets screwed...if you were prepared to pay for four...i'd go back and tell him you caught the mistake.....that's what i'd do...your mileage may vary..
05-01-2006, 06:43 PM
basil

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Well, after about a month of searching everywhere, my regular cigar shop (Vilar Cigars) told me that Macabi on 8th street had about half a box left of the Opus X Perfexion's. So straight after work today I headed straight to Macabi. They had a limit of two, but I sweet talked the guy into giving me 4. I guess he was so used to ringing up the 2 limit, but I realized when I was in the car he had only charged me $30.00 for all 4 of the Opus's. So yeah...one hell of a buy...4 Fuente Fuente Opus X's for $7.50 a piece. I'm so tempted to light one up, but am wanting to let them age....dunno what to do as far as smoking one...let's see if I can avoid the temptation. Just had to brag about the great buy. :smiley41:

Toasty, you gotta be shittin' us here. So if, say in a group buy, where you sent in enough money for 10 AF 858 sungrowns, and say, cigarsarge sent in enough for 15 cigars, and I accidentally sent you the 15 and sarge the 10 . . . are you saying sarge would just be shit out of luck? Thanks for the warning dude - I'll know to never ever trade with you. jeezus, just shoot me in the fucking head.

Now go back and pay that man his fucking money!!
05-01-2006, 06:44 PM
toasty

Do you really think that he'll be responsible for the 2? If that's the case then yeah, I'll true up when I go in on Friday. $30.00 is a lot to a guy that's probably only making $7.00 an hour. I think they are called the Opus X Perfexion's but I'm not sure. It's wrapped in Cedar with a Red Ribbon wrapped around the tip. The band says Fuente Opus X Rare Estate Reserve. Any idea exactly which Opus this is?
05-01-2006, 06:48 PM
basil

Well, MSRP on Perfecxion #5's is $7.50. However, average price paid, according to top 25 is $9. There are 5 sizes (and prices) of Perfecxions.
05-01-2006, 06:49 PM
toasty

Quote:

Originally Posted by basil

Toasty, you gotta be shittin' us here. So if, say in a group buy, where you sent in enough money for 10 AF 858 sungrowns, and say, cigarsarge sent in enough for 15 cigars, and I accidentally sent you the 15 and sarge the 10 . . . are you saying sarge would just be shit out of luck? Thanks for the warning dude - I'll know to never ever trade with you. jeezus, just shoot me in the fucking head.

Now go back and pay that man his fucking money!!

Wow dude, you're acting like I stole something. I realized the fact after I got into the car and was on the way home. In Miami, WHILE all the bullshit protests and traffic was hell. I'm going back there on Friday as I said, and true up then. And yeah, I've had 1 trade so far, and haven't "fucked" anyone over. I got this from a store, not a person...not a trade. So whatever man...you're quick to be a real jerk, and flipping out when you don't even know me.
05-01-2006, 06:49 PM
bigpoppapuff

you "sweet-talked" him into selling you four cigars...that's what he gave you...that's what you should pay for...if the $30 was too much for you then you should have bought just two....or something that was more affordable....as for waiting 'til friday...how about if he gets fired because of the favor and the mistake....live with that!!!...

he did you a favor...made a mistake...man up and bring him the extra money or the two cigars...
05-01-2006, 06:51 PM
bigpoppapuff

hey toasty...i don't give a fuck about the protests and such...right is right...and you're wrong here....:smiley43:
05-01-2006, 06:53 PM
bigpoppapuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Well, after about a month of searching everywhere, my regular cigar shop (Vilar Cigars) told me that Macabi on 8th street had about half a box left of the Opus X Perfexion's. So straight after work today I headed straight to Macabi. They had a limit of two, but I sweet talked the guy into giving me 4. I guess he was so used to ringing up the 2 limit, but I realized when I was in the car he had only charged me $30.00 for all 4 of the Opus's. So yeah...one hell of a buy...4 Fuente Fuente Opus X's for $7.50 a piece. I'm so tempted to light one up, but am wanting to let them age....dunno what to do as far as smoking one...let's see if I can avoid the temptation. Just had to brag about the great buy. :smiley41:

just in case you decide to edit...so others can see the real toasty....
05-01-2006, 06:58 PM
basil

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Wow dude, you're acting like I stole something. I realized the fact after I got into the car and was on the way home. In Miami, WHILE all the bullshit protests and traffic was hell. I'm going back there on Friday as I said, and true up then. And yeah, I've had 1 trade so far, and haven't "fucked" anyone over. I got this from a store, not a person...not a trade. So whatever man...you're quick to be a real jerk, and flipping out when you don't even know me.

Wow dude, you DID steal something! :smiley22: Calling this a "good deal" when in reality it is you benefitting from the guy's mistake is the same mentality as breaking any law and saying "it ain't wrong as long as I don't get caught." :smiley24:

:smiley36: :smiley36: :smiley36: And, the part about "I realized the fact after . . ." hmm, dubious. And, what the hell does bullshit protests and traffic have to do with this besides you attempting to change the subject. And, you ain't seen flipped out. And, where do you get off calling me a jerk after coming on here and bragging for cryingoutfuckingloud about ripping somebody off?? :smiley3:

edit: Know you??? Goddamn!! You got that shit right - all I know is what you show right here on this board . . . I know all I want to know!! Stop being a fucking pinhead man!!
05-01-2006, 06:59 PM
toasty

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

hey toasty...i don't give a fuck about the protests and such...right is right...and you're wrong here....:smiley43:

Ok dude...I'm done with this whole conversation. As I already said, it wasn't till I was GONE that I realized what had happened. I doubt $30 short is going to cost someone their job like was brought up. Like I said, wtf is going on here. If I just said, I went in and had a guy picking up some damn Cheapos and took the cigars out of the box while his back was turned, then yeah...bring all the OUTRAGE and drama. I paid $30.00. If the MSRP was $30.00 total, isn't it remotely possible that that's the real price and I thought it should have been a lot more expensive when all these websites are selling them for $40.00 a piece? There is no itemized receipt, just my credit card receipt.
05-01-2006, 07:07 PM
bigpoppapuff

i really hope some others see this...you're showing what kind of person you really are....if you think you only got charged for two cigars...go pay for the other two.....end of discussion...

regarding whether he could lose his job...i wouldn't take a chance...it's called doing something nice for someone....maybe some day someone will do something nice for you....enjoy your two free cigars, you fucking turd....

the first thing i'd do is to call the store and tell them a mistake was made...and go make it right.....remember...karma has a way of rearing its ugly head...or its good head...but it does go 'round...
05-01-2006, 07:13 PM
basil

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Ok dude...I'm done with this whole conversation. As I already said, it wasn't till I was GONE that I realized what had happened. I doubt $30 short is going to cost someone their job like was brought up. Like I said, wtf is going on here. If I just said, I went in and had a guy picking up some damn Cheapos and took the cigars out of the box while his back was turned, then yeah...bring all the OUTRAGE and drama. I paid $30.00. If the MSRP was $30.00 total, isn't it remotely possible that that's the real price and I thought it should have been a lot more expensive when all these websites are selling them for $40.00 a piece? There is no itemized receipt, just my credit card receipt.

:smiley3: Nice try. you don't know what $30 dollars short in the till will do. Taking the cigars after being undercharged is just like waiting for the guy to turn his back to reach for the good stuff, except worse - you looked him in the eye. Now, maybe the cigars weren't marked and maybe you bought them without even finding out what they cost and maybe you didn't think about it til after you left the store. BUT, after you did think about it, you did, by your own admission, mark yourself fortunate for having profitted from another's mistake. That's wrong.
05-01-2006, 07:16 PM
basil

Yeah Sid - he should do something nice, or, do the right goddamn thing! I don't believe this guy!
05-01-2006, 07:24 PM
brian

Everyone is right. You should have went back once you were unsure whether or not you had been charged correctly. Look at it this way, the guy would probably help you and anyone else who comes into the shop as good as he can, which is shown by him selling you more than he was supposed to anyway. Seems like a nice fella to me. Then you don't have the integrity to go back and ask if he made a mistake and if you owe him for the cigars?
He did a very nice thing for you, the least you could do is make sure he won't get in trouble for helping you out. That's just my humble opinion on this matter.
05-01-2006, 07:29 PM
jaewing

Quote:

I got this from a store, not a person...not a trade.

Hmmmm what do you think owns that store pal? That's right some guy trying to make a living. So you did take from a real person.

Solution:

Go back and inquire about the price. Maybe he charged you correctly for what you got and no harm no foul. If he did undercharge you and you are now back in his store bringing this to his attention most shop owners will say thanks but don't worry about it.

By merely offereing to correct the mistake you will reap greater rewards from that shop owner in the future than the two free sticks.

You make the call.
05-01-2006, 07:30 PM
basil

PM just in from boosty:

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Okay, correct me. Was it not in this very thread that it was stated that MSRP is $7.50 each? Was it not stated that since it was brought up that the guy may have to pay for it, that it WAS going to be resolved? (Called by the way and they close at 6:00. You can look in the yellow pages and call if you have any remote of a doubt. So yeah, I will call and ask what the price they are selling them for. If they are $7.50 each, then wow...it's a place that is selling them for MSRP. If not, then real simple. They can charge me right over the phone. So what else is there? Why did this take such a damn backwards turn. I've been cool about it, and u two have come off really fucked up.

Well, I'm older than you, but I haven't lost my memory just yet - I gave the msrp. You have not been at all cool about this. Think: If you were the store guy and you realized as the guy you just accidentally sold cigars at 1/2-price to is driving away, would you say, there goes a cool guy??? And I'm coming off fucked up??? You're wrong about that too. Consider yourself corrected.
05-01-2006, 07:34 PM
basil

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaewing

Hmmmm what do you think owns that store pal? That's right some guy trying to make a living. So you did take from a real person.

Solution:

Go back and inquire about the price. Maybe he charged you correctly for what you got and no harm no foul. If he did undercharge you and you are now back in his store bringing this to his attention most shop owners will say thanks but don't worry about it.

By merely offereing to correct the mistake you will reap greater rewards from that shop owner in the future than the two free sticks.

You make the call.

Looks to me like he's saying he's gonna make it right. I still have this huge exclamation mark hovering over my head though . . .
05-01-2006, 07:37 PM
Shelby07

Quote:

Originally Posted by basil

Well, MSRP on Perfecxion #5's is $7.50. However, average price paid, according to top 25 is $9. There are 5 sizes (and prices) of Perfecxions.

If they cost $7.50 each and you paid 30 bucks for 4, sounds like no foul. But it wouldn't hurt to call and ask anyway. The next time you ask for a favor I'll bet you'll get it.

Mark
05-01-2006, 07:39 PM
cinda

Kama....hummm that reminds me of a story. Since I have a captive audience and this is my birthday I am gonna tell it. About 18 years ago things were tight financially for me and hubby. So bad that $20 dollars a week was all that was extra "fun money" we called it. Anyhow the more money I could save cutting coupons and so on the more "fun money" we could have. So one day after grocery shopping I am looking at my receipt and I notice the girl made a 7 dollar mistake in my favor when deducting coupons. For a fleeting moment I was extremely happy. Then those tapes began playing in my head you know the ones, treat people how you would want people to treat you . So even know I really was running late I went back in and had them fix the mistake. They said thank you and they were surprised and I was complimented on my integrity. All in all I felt even happier then I did with the extra seven dollars. On the way home I stopped at the conner store to pick up something I had forgotten and I bought a dollar scratch ticket, mind you this was not something I normal did with only 20.00 extra for the week. Anyhow it was a $1000.00 winner! This is one of many stories I could tell you about Kama it doesn't always work that fast, but it always comes around. :smiley20:
05-01-2006, 07:40 PM
Shelby07

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaewing

Hmmmm what do you think owns that store pal? That's right some guy trying to make a living. So you did take from a real person.

Solution:

Go back and inquire about the price. Maybe he charged you correctly for what you got and no harm no foul. If he did undercharge you and you are now back in his store bringing this to his attention most shop owners will say thanks but don't worry about it.

By merely offereing to correct the mistake you will reap greater rewards from that shop owner in the future than the two free sticks.

You make the call.

Hey Jaewing -- I like the way you think. And you obviously type faster than I do!

Mark
05-01-2006, 07:41 PM
toasty

Guys, I did FUCK up by not turning around. Yeah, the greedy part of me at first thought, what the hell...I got them and was not thinking about the person getting in trouble or that yes, a PERSON does own the store, not a corporate machine. I SHOULD have turned back when I thought something was fishy. No excuses. I HAVE called and will call again tomorrow at 11:00 am when they open again. I got home, and very first thing I did was go on this thread and post, excited that I finally got the damn Opus's that I've been dying to try out. Basil and Puff, I didn't want to start a damn fight. I'm too old for arguing over stupid shit. I have a girl I can fight over stupid shit with. I love this damn forum, and am on reading and researching a good 4 hours a day. All in all, I APOLOGIZE to everyone that got offended and got a bad impression on me.
05-01-2006, 07:45 PM
cinda

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Guys, I did FUCK up by not turning around. Yeah, the greedy part of me at first thought, what the hell...I got them and was not thinking about the person getting in trouble or that yes, a PERSON does own the store, not a corporate machine. I SHOULD have turned back when I thought something was fishy. No excuses. I HAVE called and will call again tomorrow at 11:00 am when they open again. I got home, and very first thing I did was go on this thread and post, excited that I finally got the damn Opus's that I've been dying to try out. Basil and Puff, I didn't want to start a damn fight. I'm too old for arguing over stupid shit. I have a girl I can fight over stupid shit with. I love this damn forum, and am on reading and researching a good 4 hours a day. All in all, I APOLOGIZE to everyone that got offended and got a bad impression on me.

:smiley27: :smiley20:
05-01-2006, 07:53 PM
bigpoppapuff

good call....in most cases,good things happen to good people.....

apology accepted.....nothing more to see here folks.....carry on...
05-01-2006, 07:57 PM
kevin7

You have to do the right thing or your cigar karma will be all fucked up ,not to mention your conscience.

K7
05-01-2006, 08:48 PM
basil

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Guys, I did FUCK up by not turning around. Yeah, the greedy part of me at first thought, what the hell...I got them and was not thinking about the person getting in trouble or that yes, a PERSON does own the store, not a corporate machine. I SHOULD have turned back when I thought something was fishy. No excuses. I HAVE called and will call again tomorrow at 11:00 am when they open again. I got home, and very first thing I did was go on this thread and post, excited that I finally got the damn Opus's that I've been dying to try out. Basil and Puff, I didn't want to start a damn fight. I'm too old for arguing over stupid shit. I have a girl I can fight over stupid shit with. I love this damn forum, and am on reading and researching a good 4 hours a day. All in all, I APOLOGIZE to everyone that got offended and got a bad impression on me.

Well done.
05-01-2006, 09:48 PM
BigMacFU

Now that apology showed class. Can we frame that so when posters without a clue need directions we can refer to this. Well done Toasty, well done. Smoke one of those Opus now, and smoke another in 6 months, and just keep doing that till they're gone. Take notes cause the changes will be subtle but interesting and always delicious.
05-02-2006, 09:24 AM
Cabaiguan Juan

Good Man

Good decision Toasty. From someone who can get caught up in the "email wars" as it is called at my work, you showed class and good showmanship in your last post. It happens to the best of us (me yesterday at work in my case:smiley18: ) but I pride myself in righting my wrongs. Be it conscience, morals or values doing the right thing is important, even for those third parties who see our actions outside of how we see our own actions. Hopefully good karma will follow your good decision.:smiley20:
05-02-2006, 09:54 AM
bigpoppapuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan

Good decision Toasty. From someone who can get caught up in the "email wars" as it is called at my work, you showed class and good showmanship in your last post. It happens to the best of us (me yesterday at work in my case:smiley18: ) but I pride myself in righting my wrongs. Be it conscience, morals or values doing the right thing is important, even for those third parties who see our actions outside of how we see our own actions. Hopefully good karma will follow your good decision.:smiley20:

juan...this could be the best post i've seen on a bb in a long time......pm me your address...you get a BPP fun-pack...
05-02-2006, 09:57 AM
drew_goring

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

juan...this could be the best post i've seen on a bb in a long time......pm me your address...you get a BPP fun-pack...

Uh oh...I have heard stories about your "fun-packs":smiley5:

:smiley17:
05-02-2006, 11:05 AM
ggiese

I've been the victim of a BPP "fun-pack"... :smiley37:

Oh, boy - this oughta be good!!! :smiley36:
05-02-2006, 02:59 PM
toasty

What a day. I get to the store at around 2:00. I see the same guy that I bought them from yesterday. I walk to the box of Opus's and no price is listed. So I tell the guy, "hey, I think you undercharged me yesterday. I only paid $30 for all 4." The clerk is whispering, "no, no...i charged you the right amount." Low and behold, one of the guys sitting on the couch turns up to be his boss and hears the conversation. He asks for the last 4 digits of my credit card to pull up the previous day's transaction. Turns out the clerk had given me his employee discount...which he really wasn't supposed to do by the look on the boss's face. I paid the difference to try to keep the guy out of trouble, but I don't know. He may be in some trouble.
05-02-2006, 03:37 PM
Kenyth

Awwww, shoot! That's not cool. I hope this doesn't turn you off to doing the right thing. I know you probably feel guilty about causing this guy trouble for a percieved favor, but the employee kind of got himself into that mess. Good intentions, Robin Hood syndrome, or whatever you call it. You CAN'T be considered generous with someone else's stuff, only your own. A thief is a thief, even Robin Hood. It makes a good fictional story, but a poor lifestyle choice. He stole a profit from his boss and gave it to you as a gift. He has to be held accountable for that. It's his responsibility. He didn't ask you if you wanted the "special" price, did he? Were he giving food to starving children, his circumstances might be more mitigating.
05-02-2006, 03:57 PM
basil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenyth

Awwww, shoot! That's not cool. I hope this doesn't turn you off to doing the right thing. I know you probably feel guilty about causing this guy trouble for a percieved favor, but the employee kind of got himself into that mess. Good intentions, Robin Hood syndrome, or whatever you call it. You CAN'T be considered generous with someone else's stuff, only your own. A thief is a thief, even Robin Hood. It makes a good fictional story, but a poor lifestyle choice. He stole a profit from his boss and gave it to you as a gift. He has to be held accountable for that. It's his responsibility. He didn't ask you if you wanted the "special" price, did he? Were he giving food to starving children, his circumstances might be more mitigating.

Excellent analysis. However, toasty, I sincerly hope you sit yourself down and enjoy one of those smokes, and soon. You have done the right thing and deserve a break.
05-02-2006, 04:15 PM
cinda

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

Guys, I did FUCK up by not turning around. Yeah, the greedy part of me at first thought, what the hell...I got them and was not thinking about the person getting in trouble or that yes, a PERSON does own the store, not a corporate machine. I SHOULD have turned back when I thought something was fishy. No excuses. I HAVE called and will call again tomorrow at 11:00 am when they open again. I got home, and very first thing I did was go on this thread and post, excited that I finally got the damn Opus's that I've been dying to try out. Basil and Puff, I didn't want to start a damn fight. I'm too old for arguing over stupid shit. I have a girl I can fight over stupid shit with. I love this damn forum, and am on reading and researching a good 4 hours a day. All in all, I APOLOGIZE to everyone that got offended and got a bad impression on me.

I will give you 3 raisins for that apology:smiley20:
See a nice apology is better then getting banned for 30 days! as the raisin stirs the pot......
05-02-2006, 05:46 PM
ggiese

Quote:

Originally Posted by toasty

What a day. I get to the store at around 2:00. I see the same guy that I bought them from yesterday. I walk to the box of Opus's and no price is listed. So I tell the guy, "hey, I think you undercharged me yesterday. I only paid $30 for all 4." The clerk is whispering, "no, no...i charged you the right amount." Low and behold, one of the guys sitting on the couch turns up to be his boss and hears the conversation. He asks for the last 4 digits of my credit card to pull up the previous day's transaction. Turns out the clerk had given me his employee discount...which he really wasn't supposed to do by the look on the boss's face. I paid the difference to try to keep the guy out of trouble, but I don't know. He may be in some trouble.

Very honorable of the employee, but I think the employee should have told you he was going to give you the cigars at his "employee discount". Sure would have saved him some trouble, don't you think? :smiley2:
05-02-2006, 06:56 PM
slcraiders

Been sitting back and watching this thread progress. Toasty; For a while there, I thought you were going to be "toast". Just another asshat chased out. Good work in recognizing a mistake. Fantastic apology. Excellent form, Toasty!
:smiley20:
05-06-2006, 05:24 PM
valuman

$7.50 x 4= $30.00

Did I miss something?

Edit: Yea, I missed the last part of the thread! LOL

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