I'd suggest you not go on any buying binges until you know what's good and what's not. Otherwise you'll be destined to post on cigar boards "trades" for dog rockets - doesn't really bode well for ones reputation...
If you woulda asked, I would have told you both of those are "yard gars", not worthy of an enjoyable experience. They're bundled/seconds - you can't expect much more than what you got (i.e. those cigars only cost about a buck a piece).
Patience, grasshopper...![]()
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