NCAA Div I Football

**Fuma787** · 07-29-2009, 08:40 AM

My team is and always will be the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame! I think they're gonna surprise people, they have a lot of young talent this coming up season.

**SMEG** · 07-29-2009, 12:03 PM

i think notre dame has a really good chance at winning 10 games, especially some young talent at key positions. however, not being in a confrence hurts them at times. they don't really have a steady rivalry year in and year out like ohion state vs. michigan. ND hasn't been the same since brady quinn left. i hope he gets a chance to play more than 10 plays in one game this season!!

**mrtr33** · 07-29-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by SMEG

i think notre dame has a really good chance at winning 10 games, especially some young talent at key positions. however, not being in a confrence hurts them at times. they don't really have a steady rivalry year in and year out like ohion state vs. michigan. ND hasn't been the same since brady quinn left. i hope he gets a chance to play more than 10 plays in one game this season!!

WINNING 10 GAMES?

Notre Dame 2009 Football Schedule:
Sept. 5 NEVADA
Sept. 12 at Michigan
Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 26 at Purdue
Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
Oct. 10 Open Date
Oct. 17 USC
Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)
Nov. 7 NAVY
Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
Nov. 28 at Stanford

In WHICH games do you think your Irish will triumph? They might win their game against Washington, if you want to count (I think you should) their Open Date as a forfeit + win that's one, and then maybe they'll beat Pitt or Conn. But seeing that you're from Conn, I doubt you favor that scenario.

I can't stand the Irish. Everything about them drives me nuts. How long can you hold on to a legacy that's long gone and forgotten?

**Fuma787** · 07-29-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

WINNING 10 GAMES?

Notre Dame 2009 Football Schedule:
Sept. 5 NEVADA
Sept. 12 at Michigan
Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 26 at Purdue
Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
Oct. 10 Open Date
Oct. 17 USC
Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)
Nov. 7 NAVY
Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
Nov. 28 at Stanford

In WHICH games do you think your Irish will triumph? They might win their game against Washington, if you want to count (I think you should) their Open Date as a forfeit + win that's one, and then maybe they'll beat Pitt or Conn. But seeing that you're from Conn, I doubt you favor that scenario.

I can't stand the Irish. Everything about them drives me nuts. How long can you hold on to a legacy that's long gone and forgotten?

I think they could win 10 games. I think they'll probably win 8, but they COULD win 10.

I mean let's say they'll beat Nevada.
Then they play a Mich. team that is really questionable.
Then they play Mich St. at home, a team that hasn't been very good for a while.
Then they play Purdue, who is never a very impressive club and is a big rivalry.
Then they play Washington who has looked very poorly these last couple of years.
They'll probably lose to USC.
They can beat BC.
Washinton St. is hurting for talent right now.
Navy will probably be a win.
Pitt will be tough, but their running game is not what it was a year ago.
UCONN is an okay team.
Stanford just lost a lot of talent from the club they had last year that beat some good teams.

So you never know!

**mrtr33** · 07-30-2009, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Fuma787

I think they could win 10 games. I think they'll probably win 8, but they COULD win 10.

I mean let's say they'll beat Nevada. You can SAY that - but Nevada only lost by a touchdown to a strong Boise St. team late in the season last year. I don't know if any of last year's energy can spill over into this year or not. First games of the season are always a big surprise. Agreed.
Then they play a Mich. team that is really questionable. Agreed - RichRod needs to do something THIS YEAR. As empty-headed as Wolverine fans are, they won't stand for another year like last year. I can't believe I'm pulling for the Irish here, but I do think they can take Michigan here.
Then they play Mich St. at home, a team that hasn't been very good for a while. Do you really think so? I probably disagree with this statement the most. They were third in the Big 10 last year, only losing to Ohio St., Penn St., and a strong Cal team.
Then they play Purdue, who is never a very impressive club and is a big rivalry. Agreed - even though the Boilermakers will be looking to avenge last year's loss, they don't have any oomph this year. Or last year. Next year doesn't look that great, either. There was a time, though...
Then they play Washington who has looked very poorly these last couple of years. Agreed.
They'll probably lose to USC. Agreed
They can beat BC. Based on what? They blanked ND last year at home. With the team huddling around Herzlich this year - I don't think ND can pull it off. Disagreed.
Washinton St. is hurting for talent right now. Yes, they are. But hurting so bad as to not beat ND? I don't know. They have a good, young squad, and a very enthusiastic coach. Agreed - reluctantly.
Navy will probably be a win. I don't think so. The midshipmen will want revenge from last year. They are a consistent team, always churning out about the same product. But they are playing in South Bend, so we will see. Disagreed.
Pitt will be tough, but their running game is not what it was a year ago. I think their running game is the least of their worries right now. They have leadership issues on that team right now. HOWEVER, it's late in the season, and the seniors won't forget last year's Sun Bowl. Disagreed.
UCONN is an okay team. Probably the only game of ND's I'd care to watch. What is going to happen? Agreed?
Stanford just lost a lot of talent from the club they had last year that beat some good teams. I don't know. They always get buried under their fellow Pac-10-ians. Then every once in a while, they kick some ass. I'm interested in seeing what this new QB they have is going to do. Disagreed.

So you never know!

I'm still skeptical. A couple of things:
Unlike any other coach in Division I ball, Weiss is on the hot seat; he knows that not only will he need to perform to keep his job, but Notre Dame doesn't want to start all over again with a new coach and more losing seasons. Sure, it doesn't have anything to do with how the players play, but it's still a factor. I think they'll fall flat. Anything less than a BCS birth and he'll be out. The fact that they don't play in a conference hurts them tremendously, as well. And, their schedule is tired. They need to throw in relevant teams to be considered a relevant contender - someone from the SEC, WAC, or MWC.

I don't know. The whole thing stinks.

Just my opinion, by the way, don't take it personal.

**Fuma787** · 07-30-2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

I'm still skeptical. A couple of things:
Unlike any other coach in Division I ball, Weiss is on the hot seat; he knows that not only will he need to perform to keep his job, but Notre Dame doesn't want to start all over again with a new coach and more losing seasons. Sure, it doesn't have anything to do with how the players play, but it's still a factor. I think they'll fall flat. Anything less than a BCS birth and he'll be out. The fact that they don't play in a conference hurts them tremendously, as well. And, their schedule is tired. They need to throw in relevant teams to be considered a relevant contender - someone from the SEC, WAC, or MWC.

I don't know. The whole thing stinks.

Just my opinion, by the way, don't take it personal.

Oh for sure! I love talking college football, especially with someone that has some knowledge! As far as taking it personal, you won't find that problem with me. Thanks for the insight.

**mrtr33** · 07-31-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Fuma787

Oh for sure! I love talking college football, especially with someone that has some knowledge! As far as taking it personal, you won't find that problem with me. Thanks for the insight.

Good to hear. One more question for you: do you think ND should join a conference? Which one? And why?

**SMEG** · 07-29-2009, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

WINNING 10 GAMES?

Notre Dame 2009 Football Schedule:
Sept. 5 NEVADA
Sept. 12 at Michigan
Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 26 at Purdue
Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
Oct. 10 Open Date
Oct. 17 USC
Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)
Nov. 7 NAVY
Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
Nov. 28 at Stanford

In WHICH games do you think your Irish will triumph? They might win their game against Washington, if you want to count (I think you should) their Open Date as a forfeit + win that's one, and then maybe they'll beat Pitt or Conn. But seeing that you're from Conn, I doubt you favor that scenario.

I can't stand the Irish. Everything about them drives me nuts. How long can you hold on to a legacy that's long gone and forgotten?

believe me, i hate the irish too. OVER RATED!!! aside from USC i think their schedule is full of creampuffs. for the record i hate uconn athletics also, even through i'm from CT. but lets see, Boston College has no Matt Ryan, Uconn just lost arguably thier best offensive player ever to the NFL. Stanford is shaky. I will give them more credit because that game comes after a tough pac-10 schedule. both washington schools aren't that great anymore. USC is a definate loss. all others are beatable. maybe michigan can get back bo shembeckler, desmond howard and tom brady. then they might have a chance

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 07-30-2009, 07:30 AM

University of Colorado Buffaloes! Its were I went to school, and the only college team that I have ever rooted for, well them and who ever is playing Nebraska and Texas. Unfortunately, its rather difficult to watch them out on the east coast unless they are playing a good team.

**Bama** · 07-30-2009, 08:34 AM

Alabama need I say more?

**Shagaroo** · 07-30-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bama

Alabama need I say more?

Yes, you need to say more. You need to apologize for posting such filth on this fine forum...

WAR EAGLE!

**mrtr33** · 07-30-2009, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bama

Alabama need I say more?

The SEC is on top right now, signing such a large contract with ESPN. For that, I congratulate them. But they won't be on top for long. What happens when they start to suck, and are on TV all the time?

BTW, Saban has NO LOVE here at all.

**Fuma787** · 07-29-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by SMEG

i think notre dame has a really good chance at winning 10 games, especially some young talent at key positions. however, not being in a confrence hurts them at times. they don't really have a steady rivalry year in and year out like ohion state vs. michigan. ND hasn't been the same since brady quinn left. i hope he gets a chance to play more than 10 plays in one game this season!!

I disagree with you on a couple of points... Notre Dame has several rivalries; Michigan (ND's been playing Michigan longer than Ohio St. has), Boston College, Stanford, Michigan St., Purdue, Army, Navy, USC and Washington. We have the rivalries, we just don't have the benefit of a conference championship.

I agree with you on the Brady Quinn note. I hope he starts and gets in a groove and gets the Browns a decent season. I think Manginius will really help Brady's game.

**SMEG** · 07-29-2009, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Fuma787

I disagree with you on a couple of points... Notre Dame has several rivalries; Michigan (ND's been playing Michigan longer than Ohio St. has)

i don't think so. Michigan leads 20-15-1. michigan leads ohio state 57-41-6. michigan and ohio state is one of the oldest college football rivalries to date

**Fuma787** · 07-30-2009, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by SMEG

i don't think so. Michigan leads 20-15-1. michigan leads ohio state 57-41-6. michigan and ohio state is one of the oldest college football rivalries to date

I didn't know we were talking "longest" rivalry, I thought we were saying oldest. ND's been playing Michigan since 1887, Ohio St.'s been playing Mich. since 1897.