Any custom computer builders out there?

**daredog4** · 12-27-2009, 10:15 PM

I'm still around......just been lurking in the shadows. Actually I have been helping to get another forum going. Right now I am in the process of making a cigar reviewer program that helps to calculate the value of a cigar based on your ratings, the price, and the size of the cigar. So I apologize if I have not been around much. I trust you all are doing fine without me. If anyone is interested in helping to start up a new site that is "newb friendly" then feel free to PM me and I will give you an invite.

**MarineOne** · 12-27-2009, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by daredog4

I'm still around......just been lurking in the shadows. Actually I have been helping to get another forum going. Right now I am in the process of making a cigar reviewer program that helps to calculate the value of a cigar based on your ratings, the price, and the size of the cigar. So I apologize if I have not been around much. I trust you all are doing fine without me. If anyone is interested in helping to start up a new site that is "newb friendly" then feel free to PM me and I will give you an invite.

Who are you again?

**ashauler** · 12-28-2009, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by daredog4

I'm still around......just been lurking in the shadows. Actually I have been helping to get another forum going. Right now I am in the process of making a cigar reviewer program that helps to calculate the value of a cigar based on your ratings, the price, and the size of the cigar. So I apologize if I have not been around much. I trust you all are doing fine without me. If anyone is interested in helping to start up a new site that is "newb friendly" then feel free to PM me and I will give you an invite.

Now that's funny.

**kevin7** · 12-28-2009, 07:08 AM

newb friendly=asshatville=puff.com

**ggiese** · 12-28-2009, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by daredog4

I'm still around......just been lurking in the shadows. Actually I have been helping to get another forum going. Right now I am in the process of making a cigar reviewer program that helps to calculate the value of a cigar based on your ratings, the price, and the size of the cigar. So I apologize if I have not been around much. I trust you all are doing fine without me. If anyone is interested in helping to start up a new site that is "newb friendly" then feel free to PM me and I will give you an invite.

Ok... Now this is just too funny!!! We miss you, dreaddog. Things are just not the same without your inspired leadership. Seriously - and we blew the opportunity to have the newb cigar value calculator at Cigarsmokers? Oh, the humanity...

BTW - Hidden, "invite only" sites generally don't do very well. But I'm sure with your depth and breadth of online cigar site experience, you already knew that.

Is that "newb friendly" enough for you? I wouldn't want you to get all butt hurt.

**daredog4** · 12-28-2009, 10:02 PM

Actually the term "newb friendly" was meant to mean that we don't treat people like dirt just becuase they haven't been around as long as us. I will admit there was a time when I actually wanted to be a part of this wonderful site.... I guess I just wanted some place where a BOTL could come and actually enjoy being part of a community. So bash away at this post all you guys like. It will just reinforce the reasoning behind what I am doing. And for those of you out there who come across this post and think that there might be merit to what I am talking about, then give me a shout and I will be more than happy to let you into a forum where people will treat you like a decent human being. You don't have to look up to the trash talking assholes that run this forum.

And by the way. The site is completely free for anyone to join. I just figured that if i just posted the link there might be a few who would join and purposely start a bunch of crap.

**badwhale** · 12-28-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by daredog4

Actually the term "newb friendly" was meant to mean that we don't treat people like dirt just becuase they haven't been around as long as us. I will admit there was a time when I actually wanted to be a part of this wonderful site.... I guess I just wanted some place where a BOTL could come and actually enjoy being part of a community. So bash away at this post all you guys like. It will just reinforce the reasoning behind what I am doing. And for those of you out there who come across this post and think that there might be merit to what I am talking about, then give me a shout and I will be more than happy to let you into a forum where people will treat you like a decent human being. You don't have to look up to the trash talking assholes that run this forum.

And by the way. The site is completely free for anyone to join. I just figured that if i just posted the link there might be a few who would join and purposely start a bunch of crap.

I see you've gone full blown troll now. Nice

Will

**MarineOne** · 12-29-2009, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by badwhale

I see you've gone full blown troll now. Nice

Will

Actually I think he's working on "full blown troll second award with the newbie laurel".

**ggiese** · 12-29-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by MarineOne

Actually I think he's working on "full blown troll second award with the newbie laurel".

...and "dupayash cluster".

**bigwhiteash** · 12-28-2009, 10:18 PM

Hey...

We're VERY newb-friendly around here.

Thin skinned assclown phuktards are a different story. You'll soon find out what you're missing!

**ggiese** · 12-28-2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by daredog4

Actually the term "newb friendly" was meant to mean that we don't treat people like dirt just becuase they haven't been around as long as us. I will admit there was a time when I actually wanted to be a part of this wonderful site.... I guess I just wanted some place where a BOTL could come and actually enjoy being part of a community. So bash away at this post all you guys like. It will just reinforce the reasoning behind what I am doing. And for those of you out there who come across this post and think that there might be merit to what I am talking about, then give me a shout and I will be more than happy to let you into a forum where people will treat you like a decent human being. You don't have to look up to the trash talking assholes that run this forum.

And by the way. The site is completely free for anyone to join. I just figured that if i just posted the link there might be a few who would join and purposely start a bunch of crap.

Keep that site of yours private - that'll work out VERY well for you...

**ggiese** · 12-28-2009, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by daredog4

Actually the term "newb friendly" was meant to mean that we don't treat people like dirt just becuase they haven't been around as long as us.

"Newb friendly" was meant to mean people that have not been around as long as "us"? "Us"?

Son - don't fool yourself into thinking you're not still wet behind the ears. You haven't earned the right to sit at the adult table yet...

**ashauler** · 12-29-2009, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by daredog4

blah, blah, blah........ I just figured that if i just posted the link there might be a few who would join and purposely start a bunch of crap.

What, like you're doing here? Funny, you say we missed you, but you're the one who can't stay away. With the plethora of cigar boards already out there, you have to start your own so you can have a "newb friendly" place to post.

This is so transparent, I almost feel bad for ya.

**mail man** · 12-29-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by daredog4

Actually the term "newb friendly" was meant to mean that we don't treat people like dirt just becuase they haven't been around as long as us. I will admit there was a time when I actually wanted to be a part of this wonderful site.... I guess I just wanted some place where a BOTL could come and actually enjoy being part of a community. So bash away at this post all you guys like. It will just reinforce the reasoning behind what I am doing. And for those of you out there who come across this post and think that there might be merit to what I am talking about, then give me a shout and I will be more than happy to let you into a forum where people will treat you like a decent human being. You don't have to look up to the trash talking assholes that run this forum.

And by the way. The site is completely free for anyone to join. I just figured that if i just posted the link there might be a few who would join and purposely start a bunch of crap.

The only problem I see, is you were not acting much like a BOTL, a BROTHER of the leaf would have been alot thicker skinned, and ALOT more polite to the FOGs.
You were not expected to come in and know everything, but you were expected to be polite. You came in here and acted like we owed you a favor, but if you would have come in and did a little bit of browsing, you would have realised that we are indeed a very close brotherhood that gives and gets respect.
We saw your actions as someone who does not socialize well, and we don't want or need that here.

Keith

**ggiese** · 12-29-2009, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by mail man

The only problem I see, is you were not acting much like a BOTL, a BROTHER of the leaf would have been alot thicker skinned, and ALOT more polite to the FOGs.
You were not expected to come in and know everything, but you were expected to be polite. You came in here and acted like we owed you a favor, but if you would have come in and did a little bit of browsing, you would have realised that we are indeed a very close brotherhood that gives and gets respect.
We saw your actions as someone who does not socialize well, and we don't want or need that here.

Keith

And that's EXACTLY why I nominated him for the "dupayash cluster" on Kris' meritorious award!

I hate it when children like dreaddog keep spilling their KoolAid and throwing their food around because they're "bored". Unfortunately, dreaddog does not presently have the capacity to understand, the willingness or patience to contemplate the issues and (most importantly) the desire to change. Those kinds of concepts are foreign to children, but understood by adults. Therefore - until he grows up - he simply will not be permitted to sit at the adult table.

**MarineOne** · 12-30-2009, 12:18 AM

Yeah I don't think he gets it ... so its time to break it down Gumby style.

You came to our swimming pool.

You peed in our pool and got caught.

We beat your ass with a rubber flip-flop just like your folks should have.

You complained about how you got your ass beat ...... not because you got caught peeing in the pool, but because you thought it was okay.

So to take a line from the TV show Seinfeld .... "It's not you ..... it's me.".

**ggiese** · 12-30-2009, 09:31 AM

Reminds me of my youngest (and she's not a child, mind you)...

Recently she violated a house rule - a VERY CLEAR violation. Her sister "snitched". Regardless of the source, the fact remains - a house rule was violated.

So - I call her out on the obvious house rule violation, although had not yet contemplated sanctions for said violation. Mmy philosphy in all fairness - correct the behavior, then contemplate sanctions.

Her first bad move was to innnapropriately challenge my observations (i.e. - "it's not what you think, dad"). Wait just a doggone minute - it was a VERY CLEAR violation, with no wiggle room for interpretation.

Her second serious faux pas was to angrily confront the "snitch" - reasoning that she would not have been in trouble if the "snitch" would not have outed her. ...and she KEPT challenging the "snitch", despite my repeated counseling that it was not in her best interest to do so.

So... What's wrong with that picture? Well - let me break it down "Gumby" style (as Kris so eloquently did)...

Clear violation of house rules
Second clear violation of house rules - innapropriately challenging the ruling
Third clear violation of house rules - innapropriately challenging the "snitch"

My interpretation of the rules violation? -

Violation 1: Guilty - FLAGRANT VIOLATION
Violation 2: Guilty - FLAGRANT VIOLATION
Violation 3: Guilty - FLAGRANT VIOLATION

Under those circumatances - the three rules violations calied for some pretty severe sanctions. In my view - that globe done spun off its axis in this case.

My daughter's interpretation of the rules violation? - a very smug "non-issue" feeling because (she reasoned) someone snitched on her.

dreaddog - can you see the flawed logic in my daughter's interpretation in the above scenario? Perhaps you (and my daughter) could handle your transgressions in a much more mature, adult way?

Don't be my daughter...