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    This dissertation may seem a bit long but Plume's spleenful programs of Gleichschaltung cannot be adequately described in less than a long essay. I would like to start by discussing Plume's flights of fancy, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that Plume's presence will cause more harm than good. But I digress. Someone just showed me a memo supposedly written about Plume. The memo spells out plans to understate the negative impact of simplism. If this memo is authentic, it tells us that Plume fully intends to hijack the word "uncharacteristically" and use it to prepare the ground for an ever-more vicious and brutal campaign of terror. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be.

    Who could have guessed that Plume would defile the air and water in the name of profit? To put it another way, why does it hate our country? Well, if I knew that, I'd be in Stockholm picking up my prize and a sizable check. I guess what I really mean to say is that Plume's proposals are hermetically sealed against fresh air from the real world. Well, that's another story. To get back to my main point, I ought to mention that so far, the response from Plume's camp has been tardy and equivocal. Well, that's getting away from my main topic, which is that its fusillades should be labeled like a pack of cigarettes. I'm thinking of something along the lines of, "Warning: It has been determined that Plume's deeds are intended to corral Plume's nemeses into mini-Bantustans to prevent them from embracing diversity."

    Groupthink and mob behavior are common within Plume's club. Hence, it isn't unusual for one who commits heresy against Plume's established dogma to be exiled from the community. The sad part is that these outcasts still refuse to believe that I surely allege that it needs to be taken into account that "iscariotic" hardly seems like a strong enough word to describe Plume. Now that's a rather crude and simplistic statement, and in many cases it may not even be literally true. But there is a sense in which it is generally true, a sense in which it honestly expresses how Plume is locked into its present course of destruction. It does not have the interest or the will to change its fundamentally misguided expedients. That's all for this letter. For those that don't like my views, get over it. I warrant that I have as much a right to my views, and to express them, as anyone else. So when I say that the majority of damnable dimbulbs probably agree that Plume's pleas have grown into the world's greatest enslavers of human minds, you can agree with me or not. That's all there is to it.

    I hope that helps you to understand....

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    Still on pain meds, George?

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    tl;dr x 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Doc View Post
    Still on pain meds, George?

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    Yes!!!! Thank goodness...

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    For the sake of brevity. ....
    "Submitted via cigaraficionado.com

    First some definitions.

    Plume is a light, whitish layer of fuzz that can develop on cigars as they age in a humidor. Plume doesn't hurt cigars and is actually a sign that they're aging properly.

    Sometimes people mistake plume for mold, which can ruin cigars and is a sign that the air in the humidor is too warm and/or humid. Mold has a bluish tint and tends to develop in spots rather than evenly across the surface of a cigar, as plume does.

    Physical appearance aside, the easiest way to determine what's growing on your cigars is to apply the "rub test." Using your finger, try to rub the material off. If it flakes off it's plume, if it doesn't it's mold.

    And if it's plume, rub the rest off your cigar, light up and enjoy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashes2Ashes View Post
    "Submitted via cigaraficionado.com

    First some definitions.

    Plume is a light, whitish layer of fuzz that can develop on cigars as they age in a humidor. Plume doesn't hurt cigars and is actually a sign that they're aging properly.

    Sometimes people mistake plume for mold, which can ruin cigars and is a sign that the air in the humidor is too warm and/or humid. Mold has a bluish tint and tends to develop in spots rather than evenly across the surface of a cigar, as plume does.

    Physical appearance aside, the easiest way to determine what's growing on your cigars is to apply the "rub test." Using your finger, try to rub the material off. If it flakes off it's plume, if it doesn't it's mold.

    And if it's plume, rub the rest off your cigar, light up and enjoy."
    ...I would not describe plume as "...a layer of fuzz". A layer of fuzz better describes mold.

    From Cigarafficinado.com:

    Plume:
    Plume, which is also called bloom, is a naturally occurring phenomenon in the cigar aging process. Oils that exude from the tobacco in a finished cigar will appear as a fine white powder and can be brushed off without leaving a mark. Plume is not to be confused with mold, which has color to it and stains the wrapper.
    ...that's the plume I know.

    And dark wrappers are far more suceptible to mold than lighter wrappers.


    I know people desparately want to answer questions, but it is best for this community that any answer posted is accurate. I hate straight cut and paste jobs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    ...I would not describe plume as "...a layer of fuzz". A layer of fuzz better describes mold.
    It's more powdery or dusty isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingbeefy View Post
    It's more powdery or dusty isn't it?
    Sorry - I edited my original post to add that. Yes - it's appears as a fine white powder that often glistens under strong light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    This dissertation may seem a bit long but Plume's spleenful programs of Gleichschaltung cannot be adequately described in less than a long essay. I would like to start by discussing Plume's flights of fancy, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that Plume's presence will cause more harm than good. But I digress. Someone just showed me a memo supposedly written about Plume. The memo spells out plans to understate the negative impact of simplism. If this memo is authentic, it tells us that Plume fully intends to hijack the word "uncharacteristically" and use it to prepare the ground for an ever-more vicious and brutal campaign of terror. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be.

    Who could have guessed that Plume would defile the air and water in the name of profit? To put it another way, why does it hate our country? Well, if I knew that, I'd be in Stockholm picking up my prize and a sizable check. I guess what I really mean to say is that Plume's proposals are hermetically sealed against fresh air from the real world. Well, that's another story. To get back to my main point, I ought to mention that so far, the response from Plume's camp has been tardy and equivocal. Well, that's getting away from my main topic, which is that its fusillades should be labeled like a pack of cigarettes. I'm thinking of something along the lines of, "Warning: It has been determined that Plume's deeds are intended to corral Plume's nemeses into mini-Bantustans to prevent them from embracing diversity."

    Groupthink and mob behavior are common within Plume's club. Hence, it isn't unusual for one who commits heresy against Plume's established dogma to be exiled from the community. The sad part is that these outcasts still refuse to believe that I surely allege that it needs to be taken into account that "iscariotic" hardly seems like a strong enough word to describe Plume. Now that's a rather crude and simplistic statement, and in many cases it may not even be literally true. But there is a sense in which it is generally true, a sense in which it honestly expresses how Plume is locked into its present course of destruction. It does not have the interest or the will to change its fundamentally misguided expedients. That's all for this letter. For those that don't like my views, get over it. I warrant that I have as much a right to my views, and to express them, as anyone else. So when I say that the majority of damnable dimbulbs probably agree that Plume's pleas have grown into the world's greatest enslavers of human minds, you can agree with me or not. That's all there is to it.

    I hope that helps you to understand....
    Thank you for being so candid Sir. I would be lying if I didn't admit that I just felt raw fear wash over me like gallons of ice cold Gatorade after the big game. Three words kept spinning in my head the further I got into understanding this threat as I read your post: Shock And Awe!!!.

    Pack light but with purpose folks. I think it's all but garaunteed that FEMA will be making a history making announcement any day now. If any of you are spiritual and given to prayer, THIS is the time!!! I dare say the Four Horseman are saddling up as we speak...

    On the more whimsical side of the Apocalypse though, thank you all for your answers. I did a little more reading here and there on the web but as a general rule I feel the best info is what comes from wise individuals with first hand experience. Despite having a fair knowledge of "Plume" now though I have to admit I still find its appearance a tad off putting, heh. Apparently it is a sign of an adequatley kept and aged cigar though. Indeed it was on a rather dark (Maduro I believe?) wrapper too and as I read I found that the easiest way to tell, by touch that is as you all have confirmed as well, is if it rubs off you're good to go but if it leaves a residue it's probably mold.

    It kind of makes me feel like my first time trying sushi. Once I finally sac'ed up and got past the appearance and my preconceptions it'd turn out to be delicious!

    Anyhow, thanks again to you all and I'm really glad I found this forum and subscribed as opposed to some other cigar forums I checked out. Members with knowledge, experience AND a sense of humor?!? It's like stars aligining or some sh!t! From various posts I've perused on some other forums it tended to appear to be a bunch of self important d-bags arguing about the most subjective, cigar related topics they could troll up. Not all the time but enough that I could tell I didn't want to take part in most of it. Particularly being the newbiest of newbs that I currently am.

    - Mayam

    P.S One last plume related question: Does it have any noticeable effect on flavor, either good or bad, and if so could it also effect the flavor of the plumated cigar's humidor neighbors?

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    The appearance of sushi never bothered me, I just think it tastes like $hit. That's why I don't like it.

    No, "plume" has no effect on the taste of the cigar. Mold doesn't have much either so long as you brush it off first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    The appearance of sushi never bothered me, I just think it tastes like $hit. That's why I don't like it.

    No, "plume" has no effect on the taste of the cigar. Mold doesn't have much either so long as you brush it off first.

    Bill - gas station sushi does not count...

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    Gas station sushi isn't too bad so long as you brush the mold off.

    Hey, I've eaten or tried to eat sushi at some high end sushi bars/restaurants all over the place and I just don't like that stuff.
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