BTW, there is a cigar company called Calle Ocho cigars - I am not talking about them - don't know anything about them.

I am talking about Calle Ocho (8th Street) in Miami's Little Havana.

This CA article is five years old now - for example, Perez-Carillo is long gone from El Credito, - but the area sure sounds worth a visit: http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfe...le-Havana_3036

All I know is I like El Titan de Bronze cigars.