swing and slide...

[bigpoppapuff]

the biggest problem i have is this....what if......they're not 18 yet...and someone sends them cigars??......eville seems to be an ok kid.....i'm certain that he hasn't bought a razor....his posts are actually pretty good.....but that big "what if" really bothers me....and i'm sure he's a better poster than some of the asshats that frequent our little sandbox....the "18" thing really bothers me.....and by the way....most high school seniors are 17......

[CgarDan]

the biggest problem i have is this....what if......they're not 18 yet...and someone sends them cigars??......eville seems to be an ok kid.....i'm certain that he hasn't bought a razor....his posts are actually pretty good.....but that big "what if" really bothers me....and i'm sure he's a better poster than some of the asshats that frequent our little sandbox....the "18" thing really bothers me.....and by the way....most high school seniors are 17......

If there was some stupid laws I think 18 to smoke tobacco is one of them. You know 90% of kids will still go out and get their smokes. Tobacco taxes at the rates the way they are is even crazier. $7 for a pack of cigarettes or $10 for pot ... Somehow I think pot use will climb higher in the coming years.

Thanks god at least the pharmacies brought the condoms from the prescription counters into the regular isles.

Many of those who have kids hope that they will wait on many things but the truth is high school kids do smoke, drink and have sex

[Big Jack]

Here in NJ, you gotta be 19.

[Cabaiguan Juan]

While most highschool seniors are 17, i was 18 my senior year. I think the tabacco age in Jersey was still 18 then. You bring up a good point about the sending of cigars but aside from scanning one's DL, how would you know, comfortably, that this kid is 'legal'?

[taltos]

As others have said, I have some concern about sending to those under 18, but if the liability is mine alone, I can live with it. If the liability comes to this board, this needs to be discussed. I read a great deal here, but only post if I think that I have a point. Paul

[Empire23]

I thought the forum had a 18+ policy? If not then maybe we should have one when you register so it takes the liability from the forum/board just like any website that requires you to be 18+ does.

As for sending someone under 18 tabacco, then its on the person that sends it. If someone is here and honestly asking for cigars, I think they know what they are getting into. A kid who just wants to smoke to be cool is going to go buy some $3 cigarettes instead of $5 a smoke cigar just to look cool.

I would say that if your going to make a trade with someone questionable, then make THEM prove to YOU that they are 18 (or whatever is legal smoking age in that state).

For all of you know, I could be 15 and posing as someone whos older just to get some cigars and Ive made trades already with a few people here.

[cinda]

I thought the forum had a 18+ policy? If not then maybe we should have one when you register so it takes the liability from the forum/board just like any website that requires you to be 18+ does.
As for sending someone under 18 tobacco, then its on the person that sends it.
I would say that if your going to make a trade with someone questionable, then make THEM prove to YOU that they are 18 (or whatever is legal smoking age in that state).

I think Empire pretty much makes the most sense. By in large if you are going to be involved in a pass then you have to send a copy of your drivers license with the address where the cigars are going to be sent. That could be the beginning of the address book too. Honestly the picture is not important What is important is that the passer knows that the people on the list had to have a license with an address showing legal age to smoke in that state. If a person does not drive then they find someone that does have a license that can go into the address book for shipping. There will be cases where someone doesn't have a valid license and may have no one to ship too but knows people here personally. I am sure cases like that can be work out case by case. Just my thoughts.....

[coop-a-loop]

I would have to say the age of a high school senior is about half and half 18 or 17 alot of the people i hang out with are almost 19 and going in to 12th grade. Sometimes i remember when i was 14 or 15 it was much cheaper and faster to get my hands on some swag compared to trying to find someone thats 18 and tiping them for their trouble.