Let me see,
sex with children, or sex with a consenting adult?
Yep, I don't see the difference either.
More proof the right-wingers are sick.
Are You Threatening Me?
Let me see,
sex with children, or sex with a consenting adult?
Yep, I don't see the difference either.
More proof the right-wingers are sick.
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Come on Barry...You took what I said totally out of context. I merely stated both of them violated the law. I did not say having sex with a minor was OK. It is worse than what Mr. Frank did...But are Mr. Franks actions condoneable?Originally Posted by SmokinDVM
Let me see,
sex with children, or sex with a consenting adult?
Yep, I don't see the difference either.
More proof the right-wingers are sick.
Do you want any one running the country that has the blemishes either one of them has on their records...I don't.
resident youngin
"We track library books better than we do sexual predators," Foley has said.
maybe he was just trying to make a point? /sarcasm
Are You Threatening Me?
I know the idea of having any gay Congressman is distasteful to right-wingers, but let's just take a closer look at these accusations against Barney Frank.
He admittedly had a relationship with a bisexual prostitute, Steve Gobie, who he had hired as an aide, and who was fired after Rep. Frank found out that he was using his house to conduct his prostitution business. The firing happened in 1987, two years before the House voted to reprimand him. BTW, the reprimand, after the House investigation, was for fixing parking tickets for Gobie, not running a prostitution ring.
So what you're so upset about is Rep. Frank fixing a few tickets. Hmmm, what group of assholes running the Country right now illegally dole out huge favors to personal friends and campaign contributors?
The only reason right-wingers go after Rep. Frank is because he's openly gay, and continues to get overwhelming support from his constituents, and it drives them crazy. Right-wingers just can't stand it when a gay person is in a position of power, hell, they can't stand it if a person is gay, period.
So what you're trying to say is that any violation of any law is the same. If that's true, no one in this entire Country would be qualified to hold office, including you.
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Don't put words in my mouth. I have no problem with gay people holding any office. They have the same rights as you or me.
They should be held to the same moral and ethical standards as any other elected officials...Which should be higher than the average man on the street.
Is Mr. Frank so unaware of his surroundings that he is not able to figure out what is going on in his own household? If the man is not able to run his own household how can he be trusted to help run our country?
Everyone has committed a crime in their live. Some in fact disqualify you from holding from holding public office. Crimes of moral turpitude...Hiring a prostitute and allowing a bordello to operate in your place of residence...Well you make the call. I would be fired from my job if I did that. Fixing parking tickets is also against the law...I would be fired for doing so.
Is Mr. Frank any better than I?
When are left wingers gonna accept their people are just as able to become power hungry and forget why they were elected as the right wingers?
Quit making excuses for fuckups. Vote the bums out.
very nicely stated,DW....and on his best day,foley was never held in the same regard as barney frank.....
By Alan Gomez, USA TODAY
WELLINGTON, Fla. — The mention of disgraced congressman Mark Foley throughout his former district put a grimace on people's faces.
Foley, a one-time rising Republican star, resigned Friday after it was revealed he exchanged sexually explicit e-mails with a teenage boy, a former congressional page.
"I do not want to talk about that" was a common answer from his former constituents Saturday.
IN WASHINGTON:Some colleagues knew of allegations
Those who did speak expressed disappointment, shock and disgust for a man they had elected six times to Congress and were poised to send back to Washington in November. Foley had made a name for himself on Capitol Hill championing legislation against sexual predators and was chairman of the House caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
"I don't feel sorry for people who say that kind of thing is a disease. You have to be able to control yourself," said Wellington, Fla., elementary school teacher John Cesta, 50.
"It's horrible. He should face criminal charges," said Eric Wenderoth, 35, who owns a landscaping company in The Acreage. "And resigning that fast makes it look even worse. Not even a formal apology?s"
Foley said Friday he was "deeply sorry" in a three-sentence statement released by his office, and he apologized to his family and consitutents.
When news started spreading Friday about sexually explicit e-mails linked to Foley, Republicans here thought Democrats were trying to smear Foley ahead of the Nov. 7 election.
"We had confidence in him," Sid Dinerstein, chairman of the Republican Party of Palm Beach County, said Saturday. Dinerstein said he and his wife are good friends of Foley.
But soon after Foley submitted his resignation to Gov. Jeb Bush and U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. Dinerstein called fellow Republicans and told them to distance themselves from Foley as soon as they could.
"I made it very clear that we would not defend the indefensible," he said. "The public comes before the party."
Now Dinerstein and the rest of the Florida GOP executive committee are scrambling to field a replacement for Foley. State election laws dictate that Foley's name must remain on the ballot, but the GOP can name a replacement and all votes cast for Foley will be counted for that person.
One of the front-runners to replace Foley is state Rep. Joe Negron, an attorney from Stuart who chaired the House appropriations committee in Tallahassee the past two years.
Negron has the support of many Republicans in the 16th District, which stretches from Florida's east coast near Stuart to the west coast near Port Charlotte. But he has little name recognition outside the Stuart area, forcing him to drop out of the race for state attorney general this year even though he raised over $1million.
Whoever the Republican candidate is, Negron and others say that person should not be tained by Foley.
"Voters believe in personal responsibility. And they understand that each of us is responsible for our conduct," Negron said. "I don't think they're going to penalize me for something someone else did."
On Saturday, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., campaigned for Democrat nominee Tim Mahoney.
Mahoney spokeswoman Jessica Santillo said Foley's resignation would not change her boss' strategy and Mahoney will not make Foley's problems an issue.
"Before, we were running a strong race, and we will continue to run a strong race," she said. "Mr. Mahoney, from the beginning, has run to restore American values to Washington."
Contributing: Jim Ash, Gannett News Service in Tallahassee
Destroyer of Safiness
Oh come on now, anyone who thinks that the Republicans are the only power-hungry hypocritical party out there has their head up their ass. Both parties have sick fucks, and power-hungry assholes, and plenty of hypocrites to go around.
Destroyer of Safiness
Agreed. There are shitstains in both parties that once discovered, deserve everything they get!!
resident youngin
i disagree strongly. Generally, what do they get, they resign ad get a slap on the wrist. I think they deserve way more than that.
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Three guesses who controled the House from 1987 until 1989...Yep it was the Democrats. Reeks of coverup to me.
This post in no way condones any actions of Mr. Foley...Seems like denial and coverup are the way things are done in Washington.
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Corresponding Authority
Let me see,
sex with children, or sex with a consenting adult?
Yep, I don't see the difference either.
More proof the right-wingers are sick.
Fuck you Barry.I'd like your opinions on State Representative Jefferson Davis, D-50th district (yes, the "D" stands for DEMOCRAT) who was arrested for molesting his 8 year old foster son in June of 2003. He refused to resign, Democratic party leadership said nothing, he stayed in office like nothing happened. This guy is a multi-millionaire who hired the best defense attorney money could buy, and when he was facing certain jail time, he plea bargained to a TEN YEAR prison sentence which they SUSPENDED so this guy never served one day in prison.
Here's an excerpt from the article where is shows that HOuse Democratic leadership DID NOTHING:
Search the Norwich Bulletin archives for MANY articles on this guy.May 11, 2004 •• 755 words •• ID: nor2004051221165765
The six-term legislator says it's time to move on. By RAY HACKETT Norwich Bulletin POMFRET - State Rep. Jefferson Davis, D-Pomfret, announced Monday that he will not seek re-election in November. In a statement released by the House Democrats press office, Davis said it was a decision he had come to after the 2002 election and makes no mention of his legal problems. Davis was arrested last year on sexual assault charges involving a minor and is scheduled to go to ...
As you would say "More proof the left-winger are sick." Don't you agree? I'd love to see how you're going to lie and bullshit your way out of this one. You may operate this way but I don't nor do any other Republicans that I know personally.
Once again, throwing all people from a political party into a category because of the actions of one is completely asinie and stupid on your part. When you do shit like this, you only reinforce the notion that you cannot be taken seriously and that you have your head shoved up your ass.
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TBSCigars - "On Holiday"
Grammar - It's the difference between knowing your crap and knowing you're crap.
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Liberals scream each person is an individual and concesions should be made for their beliefs. They then then lump their oposition into one group and claim they are the root of the big problem in America. Kind of a hypocritical theory IMHO.
Blowing smoke and hoping no one will see through it is their way of operating.
Corresponding Authority
Well the funny thing Sarge is that a majority of Americans no longer buy the bullshit, venom, lies and hate that guys like Barry spew and the more they do it, the more people vote Republican.
This thread is a classic. I think that 99.99% of the people would agree that this Republican Congressman from Florida is bad news but no, Barry has to attack the whole party
So never mind Barry, I love you and keep up your good work, you're the BEST, keep excercising your "free speech" and turning the people in the middle against the liberals!!Guys like you get more people to vote for my candidates than any positive campaigning I can do myself.
TBSCigars - "On Holiday"Grammar - It's the difference between knowing your crap and knowing you're crap.
Well the funny thing Sarge is that a majority of Americans no longer buy the bullshit, venom, lies and hate that guys like Barry spew and the more they do it, the more people vote Republican.
This thread is a classic. I think that 99.99% of the people would agree that this Republican Congressman from Florida is bad news but no, Barry has to attack the whole party
So never mind Barry, I love you and keep up your good work, you're the BEST, keep excercising your "free speech" and turning the people in the middle against the liberals!!
having a bad day today,bill??......
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This thread just would not be complete unless the spokesman for the Liberal Democratrs, Ted Kennedy, was mentioned.
This man, in a drunken stupor, ran his car off a bridge into the water, and left the scene of the accident. His reckless behavior resulted in the death of a young woman, Mary Joe Kopechne.
He then got off scott free.
Looks like the Liberal Democrats did alot covering up on that one.
Barry...Your spin is not holding up too well.
reaching deep into the archives...good one,ken...
Corresponding Authority
No, not at all. I enjoy political banter when it's done tastefully and with some good hearted ball busting but I don't get that from Barry's post here and I think he's a douchebag for throwing All Republicans into the same boat with this Congressman from Florida who didn't actually assault an eight year old like Democratic State Representative Jefferson, D-Connecticut did.
So tell me Sid, should I trash everyone who is Jewish just because I know one Jewish lawyer here in Connecticut who stole millions from his elderly clients?
Please, do tell.....
TBSCigars - "On Holiday"Grammar - It's the difference between knowing your crap and knowing you're crap.
only if you want to,bill....if it makes you feel good...go for it...
Destroyer of Safiness
Well, some demoncrats are so intensely devoted to their party, they are out to demonize Republicans with every single opportunity. Yellow-dog democrats. So they use every opportunity to slam the opposition.
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