Cohiba gift set

[Shelby07]

Now that's EXACTLY why I didn't want to be the first to say what I was thinking after Chris's first post. I knew the criticism would be coming and I knew right where it would come from. Thanks for verifying what I already knew.

[chefchris]

i'm not understanding what i did wrong.

[ggiese]

i'm not understanding what i did wrong.

You're offering opinions when you hardly know...

[ggiese]

WTF are you talking about?

Chris qualified his statements with words like:





He was in no way pulling a "Scotty" who would lead readers to believe he had first hand experience with cigars when in fact he did not.

From time to time we've seen blowhards on these boards who love to hear themselves talk when the fact is they have no idea what they're talking about and maybe I'm missing something (though I highly doubt it) but I don't think Chris falls into that category or deserves this condescending lecture Shelby.

Yeah!! If there's going to be any condesceding lectures around here, I wanna do it!!!

[Bkcloud114]

A wise man once said......

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[Shelby07]

Yeah!! If there's going to be any condesceding lectures around here, I wanna do it!!!

Well, yeah... you know... uhhh...

Guess I should just button it up. Apparantly you gotta know somebody to post an opinion around here, or even agree with a FOG.

But I don't think I'm gonna just yet...

[chefchris]

An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something. - Wikipedia

My opinion came from what I read on this message board. It is all totally searchable. All I did was sum up what could have taken him a bit to find.

Cohiba's are usually known for their fullness, and their prices. All I suggested was that maybe he should try something more mild.

Since when does my opinion not count on things that I've purchased myself? I bought from Viper twice, and was pleased both times. Can I not suggest Viper's beads? What does it matter to me who YOUR friend is, or who YOU bought from? That has no effect on MY opinion. I, in no way, put down cigarmony.com ("i know nothing of cigarmony's stock"). I explained my positive feedback that I had with Viper, and that was it.

I'm not trying to start an argument, but this is frustrating me.

I made two suggestions:
1) More Mild Cigars
2) Heartfelt Has Good Beads
and you guys are acting like i'm misguiding him. like i'm absolutely blind.

You guys just want me around for jokes?
What post count do I have to reach before I can voice my opinions?

[CoventryCat86]

Now that's EXACTLY why I didn't want to be the first to say what I was thinking after Chris's first post. I knew the criticism would be coming and I knew right where it would come from. Thanks for verifying what I already knew.

Seems to me that if you KNEW "criticism would be coming" then you just admitted you were doing something that's worthy of criticism so why are you now whining about it?

[CoventryCat86]

Well, yeah... you know... uhhh...

Guess I should just button it up. Apparantly you gotta know somebody to post an opinion around here, or even agree with a FOG.

But I don't think I'm gonna just yet...

Still MORE whining....

[Lopaka]

I just want to say that Newbies giving advice to Newbies about ISOM's or Domestic Cigars is a little funny.

Here is something that I noticed...

I would like a new cigar cutter, and haven't tried any cohibas yet. My local B&M has this set for 55. Are the cohibas worth it or should I just buy a palio or the Xikar seperatley for less?

Then

you might be a little fresh for cohibas.

Ashauler asks..

ChefChris,
What have your impressions of the cohiba's been? Have you smoked many? As a newb I would be interested to hear another newb's impression of them.

Chefchris replys...

I personally have not smoked one. I have two (ISOM) in my humi. From what I have read, they are more full iou might be a little fresh for cohibasn body, and being a newb, i'm still in the medium phase right now. I will smoke one soon, possible this week.

Another thing i have read is that Cohiba's are best aged as you will get a "grassy" taste if smoked to young. If you let them age, as with anything, it mellows and blends. I, cannot speak on this for myself, but read this from a trusted BOTL.

Plus, for the price, you could spread your money around alot better.

just my opinion.

Now, there is nothing wrong with people offering their opionion. However, Chefchris you are talking about "young" and "grassy" and ISOM's. Meanwhile, unless I missed something, Pwnstar590 was talking about Cohiba's from his local B&M and unless he's in Canada, which it says "near the windy city" in his profile so I would say near he's near Chicago, that would mean that he's referring to the Domestic Cohiba's. Domestic and ISOM's are two completely different ballgames. You are comparing apples and oranges.

Again, I'm not trying to slam anyone. Just please, when you are offering advise, please be aware of what you are talking about. Ashauler read "you might be a little fresh for cohibas" thinking that you had experience with them. Then you say "I personally have not smoked one". Which raises a large flag in my mind. Please, just be careful when you are replying to posts. This is not just towards Chefchris, but towards all new people to cigar smoking.

Lopaka

[chefchris]

I was not referring to ISOM's. All i said was that I had two of them, which remained unsmoked. I've read up on the domestics. Anyone can read that, or that they are fuller in body.

[Pwnstar590]

Not to toot my own horn so to speak, but before I joined any board, I read a lot. I wasn't 18 and felt it wouldn't be in good taste to register before I could legally purchase cigars. That does not mean I didn't read.

I know both of them have quality beads, and are also of good character because I have read many posts by both of them. The reason I chose Cigarmony is because I can save on shipping costs by making a larger purchase from one vendor rather than multiple purchases. Aside from that single fact I feel both of them would be a toss up from what I have read.

And onto the Cohibas now. How would they compare in strength to one of the Brazilias? they are pretty much my favorite right now.

Also...I realized I need a new cutter pretty bad tonight. I think mine is starting to get dull because it completely dominated the Wrapper of my CAO gold. The good news was I smoked an AF Rothschild instead.

[CoventryCat86]

I really think there's too much of a "big deal" being made out of essentially nothing here.

Yes, we've seen blowhards and egomanicas post extremely misleading posts then we find out they were completely talking out of their ass, Oblik and SFG75 were FAMOUS for this and there have been others as well.

Once again, I don't see ChefChris doing this at all because he never misled anyone and when asked, he immediately qualified his statements acknowledging when he had no first hand experience or whatever.

ChefChris is NOT anywhere near the same league as shit like Oblik and SFG75 so....

[chefchris]

until you get a new cutter in, try using an Xacto (sp?) knife. i had to use one at work the other day to cut a cigar because I forgot my cutter. lucky enough, our main tool is an xacto knife. try this or just a plain old razor blade. as far as cutters go, i just bought some cigar scissors from cubancrafters.com. $20, triple blade. they work great. and since my word doesn't mean jack around here, SmokinDVM can reassure you of their quality. now i'm not telling you to go buy anything, just telling you what i got.

[Bkcloud114]

until you get a new cutter in, try using an Xacto (sp?) knife. i had to use one at work the other day to cut a cigar because I forgot my cutter. lucky enough, our main tool is an xacto knife. try this or just a plain old razor blade. as far as cutters go, i just bought some cigar scissors from cubancrafters.com. $20, triple blade. they work great. and since my word doesn't mean jack around here, SmokinDVM can reassure you of their quality. now i'm not telling you to go buy anything, just telling you what i got.

Smart ass digs like that are not gonna earn you points


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[CoventryCat86]

Smart ass digs like that are not gonna earn you points


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Tommy, ya gotta understand ChefChris, he's being a wiseass (like me) not a whining dickhead, smartass (like Scotty).

[SmokinDVM]

until you get a new cutter in, try using an Xacto (sp?) knife. i had to use one at work the other day to cut a cigar because I forgot my cutter. lucky enough, our main tool is an xacto knife. try this or just a plain old razor blade. as far as cutters go, i just bought some cigar scissors from cubancrafters.com. $20, triple blade. they work great. and since my word doesn't mean jack around here, SmokinDVM can reassure you of their quality. now i'm not telling you to go buy anything, just telling you what i got.

Like Chris posted, I have one of the CubanCrafters triple blade cutters. Great cutter, in my personal experience. Not a cutter to be carried around though, but great for at home use.

Hey Chris,
I don't think using me as a reference will be any help. There's only a couple of members whose opinions count on this bb, and I ain't one of 'em.

[kbitz]

I like it when people don't get angry.

I also like Cohibas, and I'm a newb. I, therefore, don't think they're so very newb inappropriate. However, I've only smoked the regular line, not the XV or the Cohiba Black, so I can't vouch for two thirds of that set.

I have a question about Xicars. Everyone seems to love them. I use a Zino cutter. It's a double Guillotine cutter, doesn't really require maintenance, fits in any pocket and has yet to give me a bad cut. I know guys who have had theirs for years. Googling reveals the price is very similar to the Xicar.

That being said, I hear nothing about them on here. Do you guys just not like them, or have you not tried them, or is the Xicar just so amazing that it's impossible not to fall in love with them instantly?

Personally, I like it because it's simple and looks like a cheap cutter, so people don't instantly go, "Ooh, shiny!" when I use it.

[SmokinDVM]

I have a zino cutter. I don't like it as much as my xikar. It definitely didn't stay sharp for long, and just felt too small for my hands.

[kbitz]

I have a zino cutter. I don't like it as much as my xikar. It definitely didn't stay sharp for long, and just felt too small for my hands.

Oh, cool.

In that case, when it dulls I'll probably replace it with a Xicar.

Thanks!