Without doing some checking, I'd guess you have a couple of Siglo IVs. As for the authenticity of them, kinda hard to tell sometimes as the fakes can be skillfully rolled.

To me (and I don't pretend to be anywhere near an expert on the subject) it's much easier to tell if they're still in the box, and the band itself can be a dead giveaway.

Eg.: When they're in the box:
  • Do they fill out the box? Are they too short, or too thin so you have movement?
  • Are the bands all even in location and orientation?
  • Are the wrappers basically all the same colour, and any variances change left to right, with the darker on the left?
  • How do the triple caps look, and they all fairly even?


Like I said, these are just some of the ways (but maybe the most obvious) to tell. There are many around who can pick up an unbanded one and can tell immediately. I'm nowhere near that level.

Last time in Cuba, this guy showed me a box of RyJ he paid $45 CUC for, and they were brutal. I asked nicely "Are you sure they're genuine?" and he said "Yes, the guy promised me they were real and if I didn't like them, he'd give me my money back."

Yeaah, OK, whatever!!!