As an old FOG I will admit to smoking these in the distant past but bring something else to smoke in case you do not like these. Cheap cigars are wonderful when they are good but there is A LOT of crappy cheap stuff out there(read cigars internationals catalogue) . Want a good decent med to full cheapie??? Try Consuegra(sp) #9 maduro available from Mike cigars.com or jrcigar.com.... 25 $ or so for 25 good robustos

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