Finding a "fix" to get a war

[yarimurray]

Read more ok . . .

Here is some reading for you to do. (I'm sure there are many others.)

I never said Chenney is still with Haliburton, nor did I imply that he is personally benefitting from this deal. However, the question remains of what the money is going for. What has changed for the typical Iraqi beyond all of the hype? Innocent people are still being killed, more and more every week it seems.

Yeah I agree. Freedom, Voting, Free Thinking, Free Press, Representative Government, Human Rights, Sports (not killings and military training) at the stadiums . . . sounds like they are much worse off. I am sure they want Saddam back.

Again, I'm not saying Saddam being gone is a bad thing necessarily. However, the point remains that I've yet to see a solid connection between Saddam, Irag, and 911 (the original point of this thread). And where are all of the stockpiles of WMD? I guess that is a minor point. It is also interesting to note that acts of terrorism continue all around the globe despite our gallant intercesion in Iraq and Afganistan. I guess it is all worth it.

My point is, where do we draw the line? Is it our business to stop all dictators, ethnic cleansers, and terrorists? Or is it our job to protect ourselves and our citizens when they are threatened. These are two separate and complicated isues.

It serves no purpose to blur the line between defense and imperialism. When we tell others what we think they ought to do we make it much easier for Al Queda to recruit new fanatics more than willing to die to fight back.

One last comment. A little over 200 years ago there was an insurgency in this country because some people did not want to be told what to do by another country only interested in how they could profit from our natural resources. Give that some thought.

Michael

[grand cru no 2]

Here is some reading for you to do. (I'm sure there are many others.)

I never said Chenney is still with Haliburton, nor did I imply that he is personally benefitting from this deal. However, the question remains of what the money is going for. What has changed for the typical Iraqi beyond all of the hype? Innocent people are still being killed, more and more every week it seems.

Do you have any friends over there fighting this war? I DO!!! They complain to me all the time about the one-sided reporting done on the war. How they never show or write about the military building & modernizing schools for the Iraqi children, or them building homes and hospitals. You "liberals" watch so much CNN that you actually start to believe your own bullcrap.

Politicians are HUMAN and are just as flawed as the rest of us. Sure they have their own agendas. But seriously, have you ever done something that you really didn't want or feel like doing (that needed to be done) but you did anyway because you saw away it could benefit you or a friend? Most people have. It's a very human behavior.

Again, I'm not saying Saddam being gone is a bad thing necessarily. However, the point remains that I've yet to see a solid connection between Saddam, Irag, and 911 (the original point of this thread). And where are all of the stockpiles of WMD? I guess that is a minor point. It is also interesting to note that acts of terrorism continue all around the globe despite our gallant intercesion in Iraq and Afganistan. I guess it is all worth it.

My point is, where do we draw the line? Is it our business to stop all dictators, ethnic cleansers, and terrorists? Or is it our job to protect ourselves and our citizens when they are threatened. These are two separate and complicated isues.

It serves no purpose to blur the line between defense and imperialism. When we tell others what we think they ought to do we make it much easier for Al Queda to recruit new fanatics more than willing to die to fight back.

One last comment. A little over 200 years ago there was an insurgency in this country because some people did not want to be told what to do by another country only interested in how they could profit from our natural resources. Give that some thought.

Michael

Damn right it's worth it!!! Someone has to be the good guy! You damn lefties love to sit around and drink your latte's and bash the country that allows you to do it while you gather at Starbucks in your Abercrombie "gear". How about a little respect for the nation you live in? How about a little respect for the soldiers who protect you and others with their lives?

I just love how you guys try and blame us for all the crazy bastards in the world. It's all our fault for being a thriving country that feels that people have certain inaliable rights? You liberals are always screaming it's time for us to "go home". That's what lesser countries would do. It's not enough! We chose to stay around and help rebuild and to help start a sound Iraqi run government. But of course the liberals even find fault in that.