Here we go again.....

[hex1848]

How about NO MODERATORS?

CigarPass works fine with no moderators.

I like that idea. Except I can't be here all the time, and I need a few people to help keep things in (semi) order.

[Shagaroo]

I like that idea. Except I can't be here all the time, and I need a few people to help keep things in (semi) order.

Actually, no you don't. The only time there might be an emergency is if illegal material, or something grossly offensive, is posted, of any nature, but it can wait until you are able to remove it from the site. Works over at CP and MANY other forums all across the net. I have been running and moderating all manner of forums for most of the 15 years I have been on the internet. I can tell you now the best way to handle it is to keep as hands off as possible. You will find if you take this approach the users themselves will become protective of your forum and it will grow more than you can imagine.

As for cocky, anytime someone in power on a forum starts refuting others arguments with "well, it's so-and-so's site and they made me moderator" they need to go. While technical ownership may well be yours, as long as you keep the site open to public registration and urge folks to be active and help grow the site it in essence belongs to the users as much as it does you.

[ggiese]

Actually, no you don't. The only time there might be an emergency is if illegal material, or something grossly offensive, is posted, of any nature, but it can wait until you are able to remove it from the site. Works over at CP and MANY other forums all across the net. I have been running and moderating all manner of forums for most of the 15 years I have been on the internet. I can tell you now the best way to handle it is to keep as hands off as possible. You will find if you take this approach the users themselves will become protective of your forum and it will grow more than you can imagine.

As for cocky, anytime someone in power on a forum starts refuting others arguments with "well, it's so-and-so's site and they made me moderator" they need to go. While technical ownership may well be yours, as long as you keep the site open to public registration and urge folks to be active and help grow the site it in essence belongs to the users as much as it does you.

I couldn't agree more!!!

(I just wish I could put it into two paragraphs like Shag did...)

[ggiese]

Cocky - shame on you.... You've been on this board for a "long time" - well, I've been on the Internet for a LONG TIME (back in the days when I had to connect my 300 baud modem by throwing a switch). Does that make me better able to judge than you? No more than you being on this board for 6 months (long, in terms of the life of this board) and being a better judge than me... Just because YOU deem yourself to be BETTER than others, doesn't make it so... If you WERE better than everyone else, you'd realize YOU AREN'T better than everyone else... Given those stupid statements you made that CC quoted, you certainly don't get it.

After all of the discussions that have been had about what it good and what is bad - and the tolerance shown for those discussions, if I were the mod, I would have let it go and asked Hex what he thought. Given what has already happened in the past that would seem to ME to be the correct course. A mod is a member with privileges that allow them to modify or remove posts. NOTHING MORE.... you are not in some kind of elite class, dominant over all the other members of this board. Start that crap and this board will QUICKLY fold...

As predicted, the dynamics of this board have changed - but not the way the likes of Oblik and Cocky thought. There are more active members now, and more signing up every day, despite their complaints that CC and I (and others) were pissing off the board members. They believed this would ultimately lead to a board meltdown. That meltdown has not occurred. And I don't see it happening anytime soon - this board is very vibrant (if you don't buy that, do a comparison to LTC...). Believe it or not, some that had pretty low opinions of me and CC are now thinking we're not so bad.

As far as resigning as a mod - you SHOULD - if you plan on acting like a child.

Hex - I'm sure you feel bad about it - but someone who shuts down, stomps his feet, and generally acts like a whiner when a crisis develops has NO BUSINESS being a mod. It's best he recognize that and take himself out of the action...

[cigarsarge]

Scott...What the fuck does your sig tag mean?

[ggiese]

Scott...What the fuck does your sig tag mean?

Don't ask him - because if he ever answers, I gotta get rid of my sigtag...

[SFG75]

Don't ask him - because if he ever answers, I gotta get rid of my sigtag...

LOL-O.K. George, I'll dodge it again so that you can keep yours.





Clue-It has something to do with Oblik.

The former one read: "Carthage must burn" by the great Roman statesman Cato. I love the guy.