Budget Box Pass

[Irish79]

Rich's puts look good to me. To address Rich's question about which trade is better, I'm indifferent. I am interested in the Cabiguan, but then again, I'm also interested in the Oliva O. The Padron 26 and Opus X Scorpion are both out of my league, anyway.

+1 to being interested in both the Oliva & Cabiguan and that the other two cigars are out of my league.

Also, I was away all weekend and missed the discussion on the puts being significantly higher than the takes and wanted to thank everyone for taking it into consideration when finalizing your trades.

Questions:
Is there a norm for box passes to grow in value significantly from the beginning of the pass until the end?

Are contests/prizes usually included with a pass?

[CAJUNBLAZE]

Sorry about that Craig.

I was smoking a Decade while posting, it is the Fusion Double Maduro Churchill.

Rich

[craig]

Sorry about that Craig.

I was smoking a Decade while posting, it is the Fusion Double Maduro Churchill.

Rich

Thanks!

+1 to being interested in both the Oliva & Cabiguan and that the other two cigars are out of my league.

Also, I was away all weekend and missed the discussion on the puts being significantly higher than the takes and wanted to thank everyone for taking it into consideration when finalizing your trades.

Questions:
Is there a norm for box passes to grow in value significantly from the beginning of the pass until the end?

Are contests/prizes usually included with a pass?

To varying degrees, yes, and yes.

[CAJUNBLAZE]

Maduro tray:
Take: #1 Padron 6000 Maduro, $5.99 - Put #29 Cabaiguan Guapo RX, $ 7.12
Take: #3 Padron Executive, $5.87 - Put: #30 Rocky Patel Double Maduro Churchill, $5.97

Triple corta tray:
Take: #10 Quintero Breva, $2.40 - Put #31 Cuaba Divinos 2008, $3.81
Take: #13 Por Larrañaga Panatela, $2.49 - Put #32 Punch Petit Punch 2007, $4.00(pd)

Long Stick tray:
Take: #16 Cohiba EL 06 Pyramid, $25.99 - Put #33 God of Fire Carlito Piramide '05, $28.98
Take: #17 Partagás Presidente, $7.05 - Put #34 Vegas Robaina Unicos 2008, $7.60

Long-Filler tray:
Take #22 Bolivar Short Bolivar RE A/P, $11.84 - Put #35 Romeo Y Julieta EL 2007, $12.03
Take #24 Bolivar Belicoso Fino, $ 7.86 - Put #36 Cohiba Maduro 5 Secreto 2008, $7.87

These are my final put and takes, if agreed upon by the pass.

Rich

[craig]

Maduro tray:
Take: #1 Padron 6000 Maduro, $5.99 - Put #29 Cabaiguan Guapo RX, $ 7.12
Take: #3 Padron Executive, $5.87 - Put: #30 Rocky Patel Double Maduro Churchill, $5.97

Triple corta tray:
Take: #10 Quintero Breva, $2.40 - Put #31 Cuaba Divinos 2008, $3.81
Take: #13 Por Larrañaga Panatela, $2.49 - Put #32 Punch Petit Punch 2007, $4.00(pd)

Long Stick tray:
Take: #16 Cohiba EL 06 Pyramid, $25.99 - Put #33 God of Fire Carlito Piramide '05, $28.98
Take: #17 Partagás Presidente, $7.05 - Put #34 Vegas Robaina Unicos 2008, $7.60

Long-Filler tray:
Take #22 Bolivar Short Bolivar RE A/P, $11.84 - Put #35 Romeo Y Julieta EL 2007, $12.03
Take #24 Bolivar Belicoso Fino, $ 7.86 - Put #36 Cohiba Maduro 5 Secreto 2008, $7.87

These are my final put and takes, if agreed upon by the pass.

Rich

Good to go from my end! I will update the first post, and, contrary to prior statements, I'll have the value column in there while the pass is in progress (this original post is authoritative).

Thanks for playing! I'll need your two squares too, please (e.g., A4, D2)

Mrtr33, you're up!

[ashauler]

Questions:
Is there a norm for box passes to grow in value significantly from the beginning of the pass until the end?

Are contests/prizes usually included with a pass?

It would be next to impossible for a pass, properly completed, not to increase in value during its course.

Significantly increase, I dunno, I guess it would be to each ones definition as to what is significant. It should not be the objective of the pass, but rather a by-product.

[Irish79]

It would be next to impossible for a pass, properly completed, not to increase in value during its course.

Significantly increase, I dunno, I guess it would be to each ones definition as to what is significant. It should not be the objective of the pass, but rather a by-product.

I completely agree that a properly complete pass should increase in value (not that I'm an expert, but from what I've gathered from reading this thread, in addition to others), "leave the pass better than you found it".

I guess I was wondering what the "acceptable" range was for a "put" to be over a "take". I understand that they should be as close as possible, but in the case of Rich's first listing of takes/puts, you singled out the trades that were over a $1 difference, which seems like a good guideline to me.

[CAJUNBLAZE]

I completely agree that a properly complete pass should increase in value (not that I'm an expert, but from what I've gathered from reading this thread, in addition to others), "leave the pass better than you found it".

I guess I was wondering what the "acceptable" range was for a "put" to be over a "take". I understand that they should be as close as possible, but in the case of Rich's first listing of takes/puts, you singled out the trades that were over a $1 difference, which seems like a good guideline to me.

That has been my philosophy on passes. I do understand trying to keep it in the same range, but it's not as easy as it looks. It will be a little easier knowing some of the agreed upon prices of the cigars being added to the pass.

Rich

[ashauler]

I completely agree that a properly complete pass should increase in value (not that I'm an expert, but from what I've gathered from reading this thread, in addition to others), "leave the pass better than you found it".

I guess I was wondering what the "acceptable" range was for a "put" to be over a "take". I understand that they should be as close as possible, but in the case of Rich's first listing of takes/puts, you singled out the trades that were over a $1 difference, which seems like a good guideline to me.

I try to keep within this range. Granted, it's not always easy and I don't always make it but I stay as close as my stash will allow. If I can't do it, I'll pass on the stick before I'll put a $3-4 dollar more expensive stick in.

That has been my philosophy on passes. I do understand trying to keep it in the same range, but it's not as easy as it looks. It will be a little easier knowing some of the agreed upon prices of the cigars being added to the pass.

Rich

I completely understand Rich, and hope that you know I wasn't "picking" on you in any way. I just wanted to get a clear understanding out there.

[CAJUNBLAZE]

There is no picking my friend, this all about learning!

Rich

[craig]

I completely agree that a properly complete pass should increase in value (not that I'm an expert, but from what I've gathered from reading this thread, in addition to others), "leave the pass better than you found it".

I guess I was wondering what the "acceptable" range was for a "put" to be over a "take". I understand that they should be as close as possible, but in the case of Rich's first listing of takes/puts, you singled out the trades that were over a $1 difference, which seems like a good guideline to me.

I was going to address this, might as well do it now. "Better than you found it" has, IMHO, almost NOTHING to do with value. It means things like:
- making sure the box is structurally sound and hasn't suffered a lot. (Note the inside box has deliberately been expanded.)
- keeping the pass to 65/65 as best you can
- keeping an eagle eye out for brown dust or small holes in cello - at unpacking and at re-packing.
- shipping using click'n'ship. You save, chances of successful delivery go up . Pass weighs under
- communicating early and often when you have the pass
- etc.

Every pass has different themes. The theme of any pass is to try some new cigars and have some fun. For this pass, we have added learning, which is generally not fun .

That has been my philosophy on passes. I do understand trying to keep it in the same range, but it's not as easy as it looks. It will be a little easier knowing some of the agreed upon prices of the cigars being added to the pass.

Rich

I thought about putting initial prices, but passes generally don't do this. More learning for you!

There is no picking my friend, this all about learning!

Rich

[FactoredReality]

... For this pass, we have added learning, which is generally not fun .

This pass is amazing and although it may be drab for those experienced in passes, I think everyone has done an amazing job being clear and asking questions or providing answers.