Thanks all, I'll try not to p** too many folks off.

Rugby, I'm from Syracuse. I remember playing Rugy...once. Even the promise of the boot full of beer could not get me back out there with the animals I hung with.

I have a few friends that fly fish a lot around CNY, Catskills, Ausable etc, but there are some wonderful creeks and streams right here in Onondadga County...and of course the stealthy fly guys are out there and I come stomping by with my spinning rod and Mepps ...funny, even my wife tried to get me into fly fishing. There is a great little shop just outside of Marcellus on the creek....oh well.

Anyway, gotta head out, daughters' first day in Kindergarten and I gotta see her off on the bus!!