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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby07 View Post
    Not only do you want us to tell you what cigars you'll like and dislike, but it seems you want us to write the right kind of apology for you so it will be accepted here. Why don't you just publish your password and we'll write your posts for you, too.
    That's not at all what I have been asking. I simply asked if it would be better written here or in a seperate thread. I don't see what's complicated about that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    That's not at all what I have been asking. I simply asked if it would be better written here or in a seperate thread. I don't see what's complicated about that...
    For gods sake just apologize and shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangyrat View Post
    For gods sake just apologize and shut up.
    I'm currently waiting to see what ndv21 has to say as his post was an interesting one.
    Thanks for your patience.

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    IMHO

    First off, there is a difference between being academically (book) smart and being street smart. An equal balance is ideal in life. I will not touch the mental maturity issue, but given the fact that you are 18 it is important for YOU to realize that you have A LOT to learn. One of the things you should've been taught as a young kid should've been respect and common courtesy. This is not up for discussion.

    Secondly, you mentioned playing several team sports and as a member of a team, there a lot of socialization skills that should've been learned early on and you are not showing any signs of it.

    Third, If you enjoy the underwater world, I assume that you are a recreational diver? My issue is that I am a certified Master Diver with about 750 deep sea dives under my belt ranging from reefs, to Atlantic Ship Wrecks, and cavern/cave dives. There are so many factors that come into play with this sport and I would NEVER dive with anyone who is not 100% sure of themselves at the surface, or at 200 ft. beneath the waves. Judging by the amount of questions you ask about "what should I do next" leads me to believe you are unsure of your self and lack self-confidence. I recommend you seriously work on that.

    Lastly, some members have already said to "JUST APOLOGIZE" and yet you still don't for whatever reason. What other way should we portray this message for you to understand and take action? It is very frustrating and I suggest you put yourself in our shoes and think about this for a second.

    I am not going to tell you what to do and I do not expect a reply with excuses. If you decide to stick around fine, but I will leave you with one piece of advice:

    "Quit posting, use the search forum for your answers, smoke some cigars, get a feel for the forum and how it works, and then chime in on different topics."

    Take this as you please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndv21 View Post
    IMHO

    First off, there is a difference between being academically (book) smart and being street smart. An equal balance is ideal in life. I will not touch the mental maturity issue, but given the fact that you are 18 it is important for YOU to realize that you have A LOT to learn. One of the things you should've been taught as a young kid should've been respect and common courtesy. This is not up for discussion.

    Secondly, you mentioned playing several team sports and as a member of a team, there a lot of socialization skills that should've been learned early on and you are not showing any signs of it.

    Third, If you enjoy the underwater world, I assume that you are a recreational diver? My issue is that I am a certified Master Diver with about 750 deep sea dives under my belt ranging from reefs, to Atlantic Ship Wrecks, and cavern/cave dives. There are so many factors that come into play with this sport and I would NEVER dive with anyone who is not 100% sure of themselves at the surface, or at 200 ft. beneath the waves. Judging by the amount of questions you ask about "what should I do next" leads me to believe you are unsure of your self and lack self-confidence. I recommend you seriously work on that.

    Lastly, some members have already said to "JUST APOLOGIZE" and yet you still don't for whatever reason. What other way should we portray this message for you to understand and take action? It is very frustrating and I suggest you put yourself in our shoes and think about this for a second.

    I am not going to tell you what to do and I do not expect a reply with excuses. If you decide to stick around fine, but I will leave you with one piece of advice:

    "Quit posting, use the search forum for your answers, smoke some cigars, get a feel for the forum and how it works, and then chime in on different topics."

    Take this as you please.
    In my opiniong, social skills vary greatly from the internet to real life. I may not protray them here, but I have well developed social skills both in athletics and with friends.

    You're assuming I am a recreational diver. I am not, though I am studying my ass off on PADIs website during my recently started certification course.

    In real life, I do have 100% confidence in what I am doing. Mostly because I am good at what I do (Hockey and Lacrosse goalie), I am not holding myself with confidence on this forum because, well, how could I? Less than a day into posting, I had wronged someone, and instead of a slight nudging in the right direction, I was verbally attacked by many members.

    You mention commmon sense and respect. I thought I was being respectful at the beginning, and some members here seem to think I was being rude. Whatever, that's not my problem if they percieve me as being rude. Especially since I can't really do anything to convince you over the internet.

    I had not yet apologized because I was waiting for the strings of conversation in this thread to die down before apologizing. I had put myself in your shoes. I had looked through my posts to see what I had done that was disrespectful, or rude, but I did not come up with much. Maybe when I get old and start slowing down I'll see it differently, but right now I don't see what was disrespectful.

    Unfortunately, despite the kindness received from some members, I feel that this is not the place for me. You were right. I don't fit in. Maybe I should try puff.com, I probably wont though.

    This time, I'm actually leaving.

    You should be proud of yourselves. Maybe your wives will make you a sammich.


    I'm off to a hockey game, have fun with your forum.

    Edit: I root for the CWS above any other baseball team.

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    designated whipping boy for the grammar police
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    Uh oh, melted again I think... dang Jello, can't ever figure out what it is going to do. Oh well, I think it would be better for you over at the other sites - you don't listen very well and you will just bounce from one verbal thrashing to another here.

    Whatever, that's not my problem if they percieve me as being rude.
    I before E, except after...

    And actually, it IS your problem if the members of this site perceive you as being rude.

    Oh, and keep your stick on the ice.

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    Damn all that for nothing....FARKING A!

    Fark, we enjoyed your stay, now go back to mommy and pop her titty back in your mouth

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    Saved for posterity...I see Farkforbrains is modifying his posts...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    In my opiniong, social skills vary greatly from the internet to real life. I may not protray them here, but I have well developed social skills both in athletics and with friends.

    You're assuming I am a recreational diver. I am not, though I am studying my ass off on PADIs website during my recently started certification course.

    In real life, I do have 100% confidence in what I am doing. Mostly because I am good at what I do (Hockey and Lacrosse goalie), I am not holding myself with confidence on this forum because, well, how could I? Less than a day into posting, I had wronged someone, and instead of a slight nudging in the right direction, I was verbally attacked by many members.

    You mention commmon sense and respect. I thought I was being respectful at the beginning, and some members here seem to think I was being rude. Whatever, that's not my problem if they percieve me as being rude. Especially since I can't really do anything to convince you over the internet.

    I had not yet apologized because I was waiting for the strings of conversation in this thread to die down before apologizing. I had put myself in your shoes. I had looked through my posts to see what I had done that was disrespectful, or rude, but I did not come up with much. Maybe when I get old and start slowing down I'll see it differently, but right now I don't see what was disrespectful.

    Unfortunately, despite the kindness received from some members, I feel that this is not the place for me. You were right. I don't fit in. Maybe I should try puff.com, I probably wont though.

    This time, I'm actually leaving.

    You should be proud of yourselves. Maybe your wives will make you a sammich.


    I'm off to a hockey game, have fun with your forum.

    Edit: I root for the CWS above any other baseball team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heftysmokes View Post
    Saved for posterity...I see Farkforbrains is modifying his posts...
    good move!

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    Well our dear friend Fark sent me a PM, and I thought I would share it but decided not to because I thought I should help him.


    Actually I had my coffee and got a decent meal, and my silica vaginosis is in remission today.




    Fark,

    Smoking cigars is a Zen like experience. You have to find your own path, and it cannot be walked for you. Since you're not getting the subtle hint I'll spell it out for you. I'm giving you a bad time because of three reasons:

    1. You singled yourself out, also known as "skylining". You sounded like Oliver Twist when he asks, "Please sir, may I have some more?", when you said you didn't want to be treated rough like the other rocket scientists on the "grad smoke" post or the "Cuban cigars" post. Next time just send out those really nice RSVP notes with the gold lettering .... those are really pretty.

    2. You were told several times to do the following:

    Read more.
    Post less.
    Use the search function.

    You didn't read much because if you had you would know that the phrase "on deck" that's being used on here for the Newbie Sampler thread is in reference to who is next to receive the Newbie Sampler. This way you can get an idea of what you want to try, and then you try it. You didn't use the search function because you would have found the review section. And we won't get into the "Post less" portion because that was an epic failure.

    3. I'm a former active duty Marine. I'm a prick because they made me that way. Of course it doesn't help when simple instructions or advice is given (see #2) and not followed, so at that point the backlash you experienced is typical because it gives the appearance you don't want to do the heavy lifting, man up, and smoke a really good stick.



    I spent the better part of two weeks (one with my account, and one just checking out cigar reviews) going over the info here. There is alot to learn if you open your eyes and ears, and shut your mouth (see #2 again).

    So if you really want to learn something here ..... read the reviews, find a good smoke, and enjoy it. Sometimes you'll get one you won't like, and it happens to all of us.




    Oh and man up, will ya? You got skin like rice paper.
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    Intro/Semi_intro, whine, pissed, feelings hurt, apology/semi-apology, etc...12 pages of that, Crap on a cracker, I've got a headache now.
    My! What a nice ash you have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    That's not at all what I have been asking. I simply asked if it would be better written here or in a seperate thread. I don't see what's complicated about that...
    Oh, boy.

    Honest answer... nobody gives a shit. Make up your own mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby07 View Post
    Oh, boy.

    Honest answer... nobody gives a shit. Make up your own mind.
    Ok. I did not know that nobody would give a shit. I didn't want to just charge ahead and post a new thread, so I asked.

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    OK... Who didn't see that coming?
    "We're at NOW now... everything that's hapening now... is happening NOW!"

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    "I guess all we need to do now is give a shit what you think. I'll work on that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    Well, I thought I'd ask because the users here seem to have a lot of pet-peeved, and I didn't know if one or the other would result in a second round of this.

    I didn't realize that would also rub someone the wrong way...

    Goddammit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    I'm not. Christ, so many users were just so pissed off that I thought I'd try not to piss anyone off after this event. Apparently, that kind of thing angers you though.

    Also, I really don't think you can judge someones social ability through the Internet, but I'd be interested to hear your theories should they be published.
    I can't believe I wasted 5 minutes trying to spell shit out for you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    Exactly, which is why I don't see why the question couldn't have been answered. It was, after all, an incredibly simple question.

    You can't STFU...


    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    1. 18 (I'm pretty sure someone here will bring up an issue of mental maturity, right?)

    2. Just outside Chicago, IL.

    3. I enjoy sports. I play hockey and lacrosse competitively and other sports in IM or rec leagues. I would also consider some aspects of academics to be a hobby (it depends on the subject), Marine Biology, for example, lead to involvement in the hobby of SW Tank and Reef keeping. Other things that I enjoy, but don't get to do as much, would be fishing and hunting, as well as photography.

    Edit: I forgot one hobby that I actually participate in everyday... Cars/Motorcycles/Engine work. Sorry Shelby, but it appears we share a hobby. I'm currently rebuilding an '82 Kawasaki 440.

    4. This is ironic, but...I don't know which question I asked 20 times. Please point it out. If you're addressing the where/how to apologize, i'll figure it out on my own. I was simply asking, because as I stated earlier, it appears that a fair amount of active users here are easily rubbed the wrong way, and I didn't want to do that again so I figured I would ask to see if there were any potential standards for that sort of thing. If that's not what you're addressing, then I'd be interested to know what you are and will respond at that point.



    The where to apologize one...

    or leave well enough alone...



    Quote Originally Posted by Fark View Post
    That's not at all what I have been asking. I simply asked if it would be better written here or in a seperate thread. I don't see what's complicated about that...

    and you have to type some dipshit little smartass tail on the end of all your posts. Jesus, it's like I'm sittin' here playing cards with my brother's kids.

    Here, edited version, try not to get a headache.

    1. Apologize (try not to add any little "but"'s to the end of it.) Where you want to do this, no one gives a fuck.
    2. Read, read, read (the board, not your mom's Cosmo.)
    3. Go smoke some cigars and decide if it's worth pursuing.

    Easy, peazy, one two threesy.

    Or,

    1. Fuck off.

    Choice is yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by heftysmokes View Post



    I can't believe I wasted 5 minutes trying to spell shit out for you...
    If I read your original post, I don't remember what it said. It was long-winded though, so I don't intend to go back and read it again.

    Being 100% sincere in that statement.

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