Davidoff Chateau Margaux 1970s

[FraGil]

I don't think its a scam but i would not make a purchase at that site the way its set up.

If it makes the members of the board more comfortable I have uploaded this to our website here:

http://www.whisky-cigars.co.uk/chate...et-p-4819.html

I haven't had any complaints when I've used this method before

Best
Fraser Gilchrist
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd ....an Orchant Family Company

[Mangyrat]

Much better
It was just a little strange/confusing placing a order the way it was before

[FraGil]

I'm glad you approve ;-)

[cigarsarge]

These guys are the real deal. They have been around for awhile.

[FraGil]

These guys are the real deal. They have been around for awhile.

Thanks for the support ;-)

[Paddy]

I know of only one place in Hong Kong that still has Cuban Davidoffs. In the UK even Davidoffs in London does not have any. They claim the supply has been exhausted. The Hong Kong Seller is legit but does not offer mail service. You have to buy em & smoke em in thier lounge. Don 't waste your money boys.

[FraGil]

Really ? I beg to differ particularly having just left Edward Sahakian at Davidoff of London who has always sold Davidoff's in singles and occasionally boxes and cabinets as well

My Company has been specialising in vintage Havana cigars and particularly vintage Davidoff and Dunhill for the last 13 years or so and at any one time have around 100 or so boxes/cabinets in our inventory.

In fact we would be happy to receive enquiries for a variety of vitolas that we are due to release in the next few weeks including Chateau and Mille series from the 70's and 80's

Our supply is far from exhausted

Kind regards

Fraser
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd

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[dr. cox]

If it makes the members of the board more comfortable I have uploaded this to our website here:

http://www.whisky-cigars.co.uk/chate...et-p-4819.html

I haven't had any complaints when I've used this method before

Best
Fraser Gilchrist
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd ....an Orchant Family Company

Maybe scam was the wrong word. Something just didn't seem right with a send the money and tell us what you want in the comments. But now that you have a legitimate link, I retract my previous statement and apologize.

[cigarsarge]

I stand by my post that states these guys are legit. They have been in the internet sales business for a long while.

[kevin7]

What Sarge said. I dont have the $ for a box but I would see no problem paying that $ for a few. IIRC casa fuente gets that kind of $ for some of their kool aid

[Paddy]

I would have no problem walking into Whiskey's B&M and buying them. But with that said. I would have an issue buying over the internet. I just don't believe 40YR old Davidoff's need to be hawked over the web at discount prices. Something about that does not sitt well with me. IMHO

[cigarsarge]

I concur with you Paddy about buying cigars that cost that much over the internet. I'd want to buy them in person to inspect.

[FraGil]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the comments, feedback and advice. Much appreciated

Our stocks of these have all sold now but I'll keep you posted of any further interesting releases

Best wishes
Fraser

[ggiese]

I would have no problem walking into Whiskey's B&M and buying them. But with that said. I would have an issue buying over the internet. I just don't believe 40YR old Davidoff's need to be hawked over the web at discount prices. Something about that does not sitt well with me. IMHO

Online retailers fall into two distinct categories:

1. "Hawkers" - those that push out anything that will sell, hoping to make the big bucks in the short term. i.e. - typically guilty of selling things such as glass top Cohiba's.

2. "Reputable" dealers that look for the reputation to generate repeat sales.


Hawkers tend to be very flash in the pan - oftentimes they are caught trying to sell something that is valueless for big bucks. Very short term business plan, as it doesn't take long in these comunities to identify and weed those chuckleheads out.

Those that try to establish a solid online reputation know the inherent risk to their reputation, and generally do a very good job of screening out the illegitimate product. It does not generally benefit them to risk their reputation over the sale of one bad cigar - so they tend to back what they sell, and only sell good quality cigars.



So, FWIW - I believe FraGil falls in the latter category...

[FraGil]

Thanks for your post.

We're very fortunate at Robert Graham that we have 136 years of successful trade behind us and also that we have several shops you can call on the phone or visit should you be in the vicinity (theres a free dram waiting to be poured for anyone from cigarsmokers.com by the way)

Not every online retailer can say the same but thats not to say they are not reputable. Far from it. Some great retailers exist purely online and offer tremendous service

In my opinion the "hawkers" don't ever last long as boards like this are invaluable at spreading the word and keeping legitimate traders going which in turn keeps the manufacturers going

Your comments, business and friendship are always appreciated - as are criticisms, if anyone has a look at our website and sees something they don't like or approve of we always like to hear about it so we can fix it

Best
Fraser

[Paddy]

Online retailers fall into two distinct categories:

1. "Hawkers" - those that push out anything that will sell, hoping to make the big bucks in the short term. i.e. - typically guilty of selling things such as glass top Cohiba's.

2. "Reputable" dealers that look for the reputation to generate repeat sales.


Hawkers tend to be very flash in the pan - oftentimes they are caught trying to sell something that is valueless for big bucks. Very short term business plan, as it doesn't take long in these comunities to identify and weed those chuckleheads out.

Those that try to establish a solid online reputation know the inherent risk to their reputation, and generally do a very good job of screening out the illegitimate product. It does not generally benefit them to risk their reputation over the sale of one bad cigar - so they tend to back what they sell, and only sell good quality cigars.



So, FWIW - I believe FraGil falls in the latter category...

Fair enough !
Perhaps "hawkers" was a bit harsh on my end.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that if the retailer I use in Europe was
to aquire a hand full of 40yr old boxes, he would have sent out a private email to select clients.
Not posted it on the forum were not only members can see it but also every other Tom, Dick, & Harry who pops in to our little cigar world, but I guess because I also have a relationship with my retailer I would not hesitate to purchase something and then hope they are not fakes. I have no history with Whiskey's and would not start one with a $1,800.00 box of Davidoff's.
Maybe a $200.00 box of RyJ's. Please no hard feelings FraGil

[kevin7]

You guys gotta remember that many shops such as this one exist all over the world. When my Swedish friend wants something from the USA and I send it to him he always sends me Cuban petite coronas. I know he buys them at a local shop and I never worry about fakes and know they are ready to smoke.