Cohiba Espledidos Authentic Cigars in Sealed Box

[webworm13]

The "obvious attempt to torpedo the sale" comes from an acknowledgement that the cigars came from, "My cousin's husband is well connected and probably due to this, he was fortunate enough find them." You might not smoke cigars, but you know enough about "my cousin's husband" to know that what you have in your possession more likely than not came from a shady backroom deal. That being said, is it is much more likely than not that the cigars are counterfeit - and would be of questionable quality.

To Ed's (EGQ) point - Trying to sell items of questionable quality and authenticity at a board populated with individuals with the capacity to understand is insulting.

While David Hannum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute!", you won't find tolerance for that nonsense here. To some earlier points that were made - try to sell that crap on Craig's list.

I am not trying to sell any items of questionable quality. The cigars are in a sealed box as you can see from the picture. All because the cigars were obtained through what you call a "shady backroom deal" doesn't mean they are of questionable quality. Most cigars as well as other goods in Cuba are obtained by friends or family members or someone who knows someone else so unless you have traveled there before and bought cigars, I am going to ask you not speak of what you know nothing of. It is just as likely that the cigars are authentic as they are counterfeit and sometimes you have to take people's word for it. All I can attest to is that the cigars came from my cousin in Cuba and her husband brought two sealed boxes to give me before my departure. Now whether they bought these at some place that sells counterfeit cigars in a backroom, I do not know for sure, but he is my family member, and I am going to assume they are real as they have a seal with a guarantee. I trust my cousin and if you don't trust the story, than simply don't buy or make an offer. Even if they were counterfeit, I am asking a reasonable price. If I were asking $500.00 and trying to sell these as if I were a cigar establishment dedicated to selling Cuban Cigars, I would understand all of the skepticism and negativity. Because there may be doubts that these are real or not, that is why I am asking only $200 shipped to CONUS.

[CoventryCat86]

I am not trying to sell any items of questionable quality. The cigars are in a sealed box as you can see from the picture. All because the cigars were obtained through what you call a "shady backroom deal" doesn't mean they are of questionable quality. Most cigars as well as other goods in Cuba are obtained by friends or family members or someone who knows someone else so unless you have traveled there before and bought cigars, I am going to ask you not speak of what you know nothing of. It is just as likely that the cigars are authentic as they are counterfeit and sometimes you have to take people's word for it. All I can attest to is that the cigars came from my cousin in Cuba and her husband brought two sealed boxes to give me before my departure. Now whether they bought these at some place that sells counterfeit cigars in a backroom, I do not know for sure, but he is my family member, and I am going to assume they are real as they have a seal with a guarantee. I trust my cousin and if you don't trust the story, than simply don't buy or make an offer. Even if they were counterfeit, I am asking a reasonable price. If I were asking $500.00 and trying to sell these as if I were a cigar establishment dedicated to selling Cuban Cigars, I would understand all of the skepticism and negativity. Because there may be doubts that these are real or not, that is why I am asking only $200 shipped to CONUS.

The likelihood that these cigars are real is virtually zero.

You've been told why.

You're never going to sell them here so it would probably be best to stop wasting your time.

Craig's List is a haven for scammers and thieves so should fit right in.

[ggiese]

I am not trying to sell any items of questionable quality. The cigars are in a sealed box as you can see from the picture.

Just because the cigars are in a "sealed box" does not mean they are not of questionable quality. Bad argument, sparky...

All because the cigars were obtained through what you call a "shady backroom deal" doesn't mean they are of questionable quality. Most cigars as well as other goods in Cuba are obtained by friends or family members or someone who knows someone else so unless you have traveled there before and bought cigars, I am going to ask you not speak of what you know nothing of.

Just because you think I know nothing of what I speak - does not mean that I know nothing of what I speak.

Having been around the block a few times, I can tell you that "Most cigars as well as other goods in Cuba are obtained by friends or family members or someone who knows someone else" equates to counterfeit cigars.

I suppose one could make the argument that they the cigars you possess are "Cuban" - they could be. But what you have in your possession are as much real Cohiba's as the Rolex watches sold on the streets of Kingston, Jamaica.

It is just as likely that the cigars are authentic as they are counterfeit and sometimes you have to take people's word for it.

And those Cohiba's you possess are as likely authentic as the gold jewelry they sell "on the word" of the street vendors in downtown Chicago.

All I can attest to is that the cigars came from my cousin in Cuba and her husband brought two sealed boxes to give me before my departure. Now whether they bought these at some place that sells counterfeit cigars in a backroom, I do not know for sure, but he is my family member, and I am going to assume they are real as they have a seal with a guarantee. I trust my cousin and if you don't trust the story, than simply don't buy or make an offer.

So you cannot attest to the fact that the cigars are authentic - other than to say that you "assume" your relative would not sell you anything other than what is real. You know what they say about "ASS-U-ME", don't you???

Even if they were counterfeit, I am asking a reasonable price. If I were asking $500.00 and trying to sell these as if I were a cigar establishment dedicated to selling Cuban Cigars, I would understand all of the skepticism and negativity. Because there may be doubts that these are real or not, that is why I am asking only $200 shipped to CONUS.

...and you'd be better off peddling your fake cigars on Craig's list.

We're just sayin'...

[buzz]

Nice use of smileys George!

-Buzz