West coast

garryyjr · 03-09-2011, 09:07 AM

How many of you are from the west coast?

Doesn't seem like to many. Forum, for me dies down come 11ish west coast time but picks up really early.

I wonder why most of the cigar smokers are on the eastern side.

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**badwhale** · 03-09-2011, 10:30 AM

Smoking bans? High taxes? Population density?

garryyjr · 03-09-2011, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by badwhale

Smoking bans? High taxes? Population density?

Smoking bans and population.. not an issue here in Southern Oregon at least where I am.. and on that note.. No taxes either.

If things keep happening like CA and moving upward, I have no problem moving more north or east..

**Cigarbear** · 03-09-2011, 03:04 PM

I wouldn't go too far north. WA ain't too friendly to tobacco...unless it's wacky

garryyjr · 03-09-2011, 03:08 PM

I didn't care for WA... Been there once.

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**Cigarbear** · 03-10-2011, 01:23 PM

I love Seattle but for the cost of living and smoking bans. After freezing in upstate NY and sweating in the SE, this mild weather don't suck!

garryyjr · 03-10-2011, 01:26 PM

What are the smoking band in seattle? I've been there once. Sister in law lives in Kent.

Very nice city.. I'm used to SF but seattle is WAY cleaner.

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**tarheelnation3** · 03-10-2011, 01:50 PM

I'm on the West Coast...I have definitely noticed a difference in the views on cigars from when I lived on the East Coast to now living on the West. Still, nothing like a good Cubano while on some of the great courses out here in the middle of what is considered winter for most people!

**Cigarbear** · 03-10-2011, 06:46 PM

You can't smoke inside any public building nor within 25 ft. of any doorway. The only exceptions are the Indian reservations. There's a push now for cigar bar exemptions but not much public support for it.

garryyjr · 03-11-2011, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Cigarbear

You can't smoke inside any public building nor within 25 ft. of any doorway. The only exceptions are the Indian reservations. There's a push now for cigar bar exemptions but not much public support for it.

Same here in Southern Oregon, but it is 10 ft.

We don't have a cigar bar.. Just shitty ' News & Smokes' that offer smoking items and accessories.

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**wild** · 03-11-2011, 07:05 AM

I'll be heading to San Diego in June for the American Homebrewers Conference. What are the smoking laws there? Am I doomed to a smokeless week?

**buzz** · 03-11-2011, 09:36 AM

In San Diego you can't smoke at the beaches or in parks.

-Buzz

garryyjr · 03-11-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by wild

I'll be heading to San Diego in June for the American Homebrewers Conference. What are the smoking laws there? Am I doomed to a smokeless week?

I want to go to that. I am waiting for one to come to Oregon. I have been brewing for.. about a year now. So much fun!

**MrPlatypus** · 03-11-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Cigarbear

You can't smoke inside any public building nor within 25 ft. of any doorway. The only exceptions are the Indian reservations. There's a push now for cigar bar exemptions but not much public support for it.

Not a lot of cigar bars I can think of in this state, so I could see there being low public support (considering this is the first I've heard of it, shows how much publicity it's getting over here in the Tri-Cities.) Technically, Cigarbear is correct, and the only way I've seen around it is one of our local bars closed off their patio section and made it smoker friendly, but for the most part, most people just step outside and everyone is okay with it over here. I guess how hard it's enforced just depends on where you are in this state.

garryyjr · 03-11-2011, 10:52 AM

I understand that. Which, If there was a cigar bar around here, not sure how much I would use it. I normally hang out in the garage, towards the later part of the night smoking.

Plus Southern Oregon, isn't well populated for that support anyways, IMO

**JiveTurkey** · 03-12-2011, 02:34 PM

Mid-Willamette Valley, Oregon here. There are a couple cigar bars further north in Portland, none very close, and I haven't explored elsewhere.

Perhaps in the minority here, I appreciate a smokeless environment in most indoor public places. It'd be nice if there were more cigar bars (which are exempted from the statewide ban), places where non-smokers or those not wanting to be around second-hand smoke have little reason to go anyway.

Garry, though no general sales tax, there is a tobacco tax in Oregon. It's built into the sticker price if you buy cigars locally, or you're supposed to pay the tax quarterly if you import them.