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[puffstuff]

Jarvis, may I ask what happened with Joycigars.com, just a name change?

[JarvisAmadio]

sorry, I don't know what about Joycigars...I've never worked with it
as I know that was not only for cigars but also for cigar accessories, and here we have only cigar assortment...

[puffstuff]

sorry, I don't know what about Joycigars...I've never worked with it
as I know that was not only for cigars but also for cigar accessories, and here we have only cigar assortment...

I ask because of all the references on your site to JOY, including the front page and this quoted from your disclaimer page.
"Our prices don't include any additional taxes or VATs, which can be applied by your local Customs. Please be aware of such issues before making a purchase at JoyCigars.com and don't forget to ask about possible duties at your local post office. We are not responsible for any duties or taxes your parcel may be subjected to."

[CoventryCat86]

Jarvis, you're starting to remind me of those Nigerian scammers who keep emailing me telling me they have 100 billions dollars for me and all I have to do is wire them a transfer fee.

When I try to ask these criminals questions, they respond with broken English and try to play stupid which is exactly what you're doing here.

Please answer Al's original question:

1. What happened with joycigars.com, just a name change?

And this time, give us a REAL answer, not the nonsensical double-talk BS you gave in your first answer.

[JarvisAmadio]

I really didn't work with Joycigars...
but I see you have many questions, so that's why I asked my manager about this problem....
yes...joycigars was renamed into 2000cigars and it was decided at the beginning of the project (that's why I didn't know about it)

puffstuff, and thanks for your quote, it was our mistake and our team have corrected it

[ashauler]

Scrubba-dubba-dubba......snifffffffff.........., nope.

[JarvisAmadio]

And this time, give us a REAL answer, not the nonsensical double-talk BS you gave in your first answer.

CC86, just for future, I don't lie and I don't respect people who do this, especially in such a serious problem...we build our business and its authority depends only on us and our customers/clients, so it is not in my best interest to deceive the audience...

[Eville]

When did you start working for 2000cigars?

ETA: Also, what is the address of your store?

[cigarsarge]

This is a damn interesting thread...

[CoventryCat86]

CC86, just for future, I don't lie and I don't respect people who do this, especially in such a serious problem...we build our business and its authority depends only on us and our customers/clients, so it is not in my best interest to deceive the audience...

JervisArmada, to quote you "just for future," I don't respect people like you who don't answer simple questions and talk in circles. I don't believe for one minute that your inability to communicate in English is because you don't have a very good grasp of the language. On the contrary, I still think you're no better than those Nigerian scammers who write like you do at first and once you start engaging them in a conversation, all of a sudden, their English is better than mine.

Besides that, your prices can be beat by just about any on-line cigar retailer so you can run along now anytime because no one here is going to buy anything from you. We simply cannot trust you.

[CoventryCat86]

Let's do some price comparisons:

Sancho Panza Double Maduro Cervantes:

JR Cigars: $54.68 and if you watch for deals, you can get free shipping like I did
JervisArmada: $75.72

38% higher on Jervis' site

Hoyo de Monterrey Excalibur 1066 King Arthur:

Famous-Smoke: $73.99
JervisArmada: $95.55

29% higher on Jervis' site

Onyx Reserve Robusto:

JR Cigars: $68.95
Jervis Armada: $88.68

29% higher on Jervis' site

I could go on and on but I think there's enough evidence here to rule out JervisArmada as a legitimate retailer.