Go ahead and flame away CC

**cigar no baka** · 07-15-2005, 09:57 AM

If you want to waste your time flaming me go ahead. I have ignored you. I come to the boards to talk. 99% of your posts are slamming someone or insulting them so your content is worthless. You are one of the worst examples of an internet sociopath I have ever seen.

**CoventryCat86** · 07-15-2005, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

If you want to waste your time flaming me go ahead. I have ignored you. I come to the boards to talk. 99% of your posts are slamming someone or insulting them so your content is worthless. You are one of the worst examples of an internet sociopath I have ever seen.

When you grossly exaggerate as you did above, your credibility goes right in the toilet.

You "flamed" me in a thread by bringing the thread off topic and when I called you on it, you pulled a "Scotty" and refused to answer.

If you're going to spew vitriol don't waste everyone's time. If you want to take issue with something, state it and we can open up a discussion.

You seem only interested in being an asshole so just continue to go right ahead and do that. You're only digging your own hole deeper.

**ggiese** · 07-15-2005, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

If you want to waste your time flaming me go ahead. I have ignored you. I come to the boards to talk. 99% of your posts are slamming someone or insulting them so your content is worthless. You are one of the worst examples of an internet sociopath I have ever seen.

Very, very VERY bad move. You have no idea how bad a move this was, but you should have by looking around...

Do what you gotta do, bro... You're totally on your own.... Good luck....

**hex1848** · 07-15-2005, 10:40 AM

<reminder>
Keep this stuff in Politics.
</reminder>

**cigarsarge** · 07-15-2005, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

If you want to waste your time flaming me go ahead. I have ignored you. I come to the boards to talk. 99% of your posts are slamming someone or insulting them so your content is worthless. You are one of the worst examples of an internet sociopath I have ever seen.

This is an obvious attempt to bait CC. Seems like cigar no baka is guilty of what he is accusing CC of doing.

Bad move indeed.

**CoventryCat86** · 07-15-2005, 10:42 AM

He's in meltdown George. He's having a bad day and I suppose we all do every now and then.

He really should learn to control his temper.

It's most unfortunate because if he'd like to have a reasonable discussion about what types of behavior lead to attracting or discouraging membership here, great, "let's discuss" but he took a shot at me in a thread and when I asked him to back it up, he pulled a Scotty.

Once he learns how to NOT act like Scotty, maybe things will work out.

**CoventryCat86** · 07-15-2005, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by hex1848

<reminder>
Keep this stuff in Politics.
</reminder>

Isn't that where it is?

**cigar no baka** · 07-15-2005, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by cigarsarge

This is an obvious attempt to bait CC. Seems like cigar no baka is guilty of what he is accusing CC of doing.

Bad move indeed.

Your bias is showing. I stated an opinion, CC jumped all over me with profanity, and I defended myself. Who is baiting whom???

**Hugh Jorgan** · 07-15-2005, 10:52 AM

c-no baka, my first experience with you on this board went like this:

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

The "marrying" of cigars is a myth, Joshua

The exceptation being flavored infused ( Acids/Drew Estates/ Lars ) types which should not even be in the humi with your "regular" cigars.

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

I beg to differ, and so do many others. Cigars do marry flavors under the right/wrong conditions depending how you see it.

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

Can you be more specific ?

What makes you think otherwise? Who are the "many others" ?

What conditions do you hint about?

To change my mind ( and many others

) I need to see evidence of "marrying".

/ Hugh

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

People who own the cigar shop I go to (who know shitloads about cigars) and most of the customers (some who have been smoking cigars longer than I have been alive) I have come to know after sitting in the lounge say cigars can marry flavors. I'm not going to argue the point, as others have different opinions.

That's odd, I hadn't realized we were arguing to begin with. I simply asked you what experiences and evidence you knew which supported the idea of cigars "marrying" .

Obviously you were parroting the opinion of others, but have nothing to support your claim.

I was genuinely interested until you decided to cut your losses and refuse to discuss it. Fine.

Please don't say it if you are simply talking out of your ass then.

So I can understand why you have the hair of the kitty all riled up. It seems to be a common characteristic of your posts to 1.) state your opinion and when others who may disagree with you would like clarification, 2.) you clam up and give them the

.

Not very healthy in making friends or developing fresh ideas / opinions by sharing knowledge with those that - surprise!- might just know what the hell they are talking about!

Another point, if you do decide that you are not going to argue a point or discuss something, then do it. Don't jump in and out , back and forth waffling.

Just STFU as you promised. Stop whining , have the balls to support your position and grow a thicker skin.

Now that I have stated my perspective, I am not going to discuss this anymore!

**hex1848** · 07-15-2005, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Isn't that where it is?

Just making sure it stays here

**ggiese** · 07-15-2005, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Isn't that where it is?

I think Hex is worried about this fight going all over the board...

**ggiese** · 07-15-2005, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by hex1848

Just making sure it stays here

Hex - I for one would love to honor this request. But, as Hugh just pointed out a moment ago, CNB has already show the propensity to begin assinine arguments, which will certainly lead to a "heated" discussion. How are we supposed to keep that in the Politics section. This was what I was trying to get to in my open post to you in "What's a brother to do...".

Please - if it gets to the point where it's not to your liking, I have no problem whatsover having the whole thread moved to politics. But, it's going to be difficuly to tip-toe around if CNB is going to be baiting, like he (and Scotty) are doing...

**Hugh Jorgan** · 07-15-2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by hex1848

Just making sure it stays here

Doing the best we can Hex!

Sometimes when the flood gates open, we get a little leakage elsewhere. Thanks for being our emergency mop man.

**cigar no baka** · 07-15-2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

c-no baka, my first experience with you on this board went like this:

That's odd, I hadn't realized we were arguing to begin with. I simply asked you what experiences and evidence you knew which supported the idea of cigars "marrying" .

Obviously you were parroting the opinion of others, but have nothing to support your claim.

I was genuinely interested until you decided to cut your losses and refuse to discuss it. Fine.

Please don't say it if you are simply talking out of your ass then.

So I can understand why you have the hair of the kitty all riled up. It seems to be a common characteristic of your posts to 1.) state your opinion and when others who may disagree with you would like clarification, 2.) you clam up and give them the

.

Not very healthy in making friends or developing fresh ideas / opinions by sharing knowledge with those that - surprise!- might just know what the hell they are talking about!

Another point, if you do decide that you are not going to argue a point or discuss something, then do it. Don't jump in and out , back and forth waffling.

Just STFU as you promised. Stop whining , have the balls to support your position and grow a thicker skin.

Now that I have stated my perspective, I am not going to discuss this anymore!

Show me one other post I ahve given anyone the

in and I will STFU. Otherwise you are lying.

**cigar no baka** · 07-15-2005, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Hex - I for one would love to honor this request. But, as Hugh just pointed out a moment ago, CNB has already show the propensity to begin assinine arguments, which will certainly lead to a "heated" discussion. How are we supposed to keep that in the Politics section. This was what I was trying to get to in my open post to you in "What's a brother to do...".

Please - if it gets to the point where it's not to your liking, I have no problem whatsover having the whole thread moved to politics. But, it's going to be difficuly to tip-toe around if CNB is going to be baiting, like he (and Scotty) are doing...

I didn't bait anyone in the beginnig. I stated my opinion about what was going on between the group that hates Scotty and Scotty. CC baited me, I remained calm, then he posted several of his typical jump all over your ass, profane, childish posts. So I am the baiter? Your bias is showing. You may like CC fine but I did not bait him, he started flaming away at me.

**Hugh Jorgan** · 07-15-2005, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

Show me one other post I ahve given anyone the

in and I will STFU. Otherwise you are lying.

Sorry for the use of symbolism, c-no baka.

In this case,

= " I refuse to talk about this with you anymore, back off."

**cigarsarge** · 07-15-2005, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

Your bias is showing. I stated an opinion, CC jumped all over me with profanity, and I defended myself. Who is baiting whom???

No bias here. Just observing the facts. Don't be guilty of what you accuse others of doing.

**Shagaroo** · 07-15-2005, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

When you grossly exaggerate as you did above, your credibility goes right in the toilet.

That happened on about the 12th "I am done posting about this right after this last insult" post he made. Now he's just wiping and flushing.

**CoventryCat86** · 07-15-2005, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

I didn't bait anyone in the beginnig. I stated my opinion about what was going on between the group that hates Scotty and Scotty. CC baited me, I remained calm, then he posted several of his typical jump all over your ass, profane, childish posts. So I am the baiter? Your bias is showing. You may like CC fine but I did not bait him, he started flaming away at me.

WOW!!! Your perception of reality and reality itself are two very different things!!! Go back and look at the thread. You didn't "remain calm" but rather started gettin' kinda nasty then when I asked you to elaborate of this post of yours:

Nice and respectable. Who is keeping members off the boards?

You pulled a Scotty and refused to answer.
If I upset you prior to that, then I apologize for offending you, I did not mean to.

**ggiese** · 07-15-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

I didn't bait anyone in the beginnig. I stated my opinion about what was going on between the group that hates Scotty and Scotty. CC baited me, I remained calm, then he posted several of his typical jump all over your ass, profane, childish posts. So I am the baiter? Your bias is showing. You may like CC fine but I did not bait him, he started flaming away at me.

Well, my friend... Then you had better be VERY careful about what you say, and how yoy say it. Because I can see where, in the past, you have already jumped into situations with your opinion and you feel your opinion is more important that anyone elses. You believe you should not be challenged... A very Scotty like move... This could be VERY bad....

My bias is for what I feel is right. And I will post my opinion of what I think. If I think CC is wrong, he'll know it. And if I feel you are wrong - you'll know it to. I can tell you this much - if I tell CC he's wrong, I'll back it up with clear reasoning. We may even bicker. But - he will respect what I say, and I will respect what he says. And if in the end I'm wrong - I'll accept it and bow out. And I'll also STFU when I shouldn't be involved.

You, sir, have very little history. I, and everyone else on this board for that matter, don't know what you're about. You obviously want to interject your opinion where you probably shouldn't, (seeing as how you seem to think SFG75 is some kind of martyr) and you are accusing CC and others of starting flame wars all over the place. Clearly, you don't have any clue about what you are saying. Yes - there have been heated discussions - yes, there has been some "calling out" (I believe you call it "baiting"). But you should have watched from the side lines while the argument went on. Post your cigar reviews, answer other members questions or make comments, but stay out of the areas for which you are not qualified or prepared to answer. And that includes involvement in the whole SFG fiasco.

As an example - you clearly showed your inexperience with Hugh over the flavored cigar posts. You admitted you only relied on the little bit of information you got from the guys at the cigar shop. That is not YOUR position - it is the position of what you HEARD others say - that's, my friend, is called HEARSAY in the legal circles - it's not admissible in court because it's such a WEAK position to be in...

You're new here. You have no history here. All that anyone can do to judge you is to read what you write NOW. You are not very respected now because you have not established yourself as very respecable yet, even though you'd like to think so. Get over it - it's the way things work in life....