Where on the political spectrum do you lie? (Mods: Please don't move!)

**ggiese** · 07-17-2005, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

I'm on the Republican State Central Committee in Connecticut so GUESS

You're a damn spy for the Democrats!!!

**ggiese** · 07-17-2005, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by hex1848

This thread really has no place in the "Cigars" forum.

Nice going, Jim... You got the boss all mad...

Sorry, Hex...

Sheesh......

**nhcigarfan** · 07-17-2005, 02:50 PM

I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I have no problem doing what I can for people but I am not sure doing it through big government is the answer. Too much over-head. As for voting, I am indy. I vote for who I believe I can trust.

Personally I don't believe is straight tic votes. If you not going to educate your self on all the positions and the people who are running for them don't just vote for them because of the party affiliation.

**Johnny** · 07-17-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

Personally I don't believe in straight tic votes. If you not going to educate your self on all the positions and the people who are running for them don't just vote for them because of the party affiliation.

As above on how to vote. Usually vote in the UK for Labour or Liberal Democrats so that puts me on the left, but with how politics is going nowadays, not by much!!

**grand cru no 2** · 07-17-2005, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bkcloud114

If I wanted to talk politics I'd go to a Political Forum....

Like Hex said..... this thread does not belong on a Cigar Board.....

Can you lock it ?

Bitch, bitch, bitch.

**CoventryCat86** · 07-17-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I have no problem doing what I can for people but I am not sure doing it through big government is the answer. Too much over-head. As for voting, I am indy. I vote for who I believe I can trust.

Personally I don't believe is straight tic votes. If you not going to educate your self on all the positions and the people who are running for them don't just vote for them because of the party affiliation.

I actually completely disagree with the notion that people shouldn't vote strictly on party affiliation. I've been working at the state capitol in Connecticut off and on for 12 years and what gets me is INDIVIDUALLY, many Democrat state legislators talk the story about being "conservative" when it comes to important issues like taxing and spending but when it comes down to voting 99.9% of the time they vote party lines because YOU CANNOT BUCK PARTY LEADERSHIP. So if you believe in a party's philosophical position for the most part, you really have to vote the party and not the person. nhcigarfan, you sound like today's definition of the modern Republican,

fiscally conservative with a realistic view that we must help those who cannot help themselves BUT NOT WITH BIG GOVERNMENT!!

Now I know it sounds wrong but I'm tellin' ya, I've seen too much of this nonsense first hand and that's the way it works, almost all major votes in State's legislatures are along party lines, no matter what an individual candidate may say, campaign about or whatever.......

Fortunately in New Hampshire, the Democrats will NEVER be able to get control of the House. Once in a great while they manage to get control of the State Senate but if I remember correctly, the Republicans got control back in 2002. The Democrats in New Hampshire dream about a state income tax but their candidates usually don't say it publicly. Once Democratic State Senator (McLarnen, I think her name was?) in Rochester came out and said she supported it. LMAO, guess what, she LOST (District #6, Rochester and a few surrounding towns)

**Rbraczyk** · 07-17-2005, 10:43 PM

Thanks to benson this state is all f'ed up. Good thing we have that democrat in, whoever he his. We have enough republicans in this state, so a good democrat helps level it out.

Yes, I'm newhampshirian.

**CoventryCat86** · 07-17-2005, 11:09 PM

I just checked, all is right with the world in New Hampshire. Out of 24 Senators there are 16 Republicans and only 8 Democrats.

We'll send Lynch packing in '06

Life is good

Iced T · 07-18-2005, 02:36 AM

I'm conservative, but my county voted 73.3 Kerry 25.5 Bush. Soooo.... Also check out www.protestwarrior.com, and hq.protestwarrior.com. Lots of action here near San Francisco.

**cigar no baka** · 07-18-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

I actually completely disagree with the notion that people shouldn't vote strictly on party affiliation. I've been working at the state capitol in Connecticut off and on for 12 years and what gets me is INDIVIDUALLY, many Democrat state legislators talk the story about being "conservative" when it comes to important issues like taxing and spending but when it comes down to voting 99.9% of the time they vote party lines because YOU CANNOT BUCK PARTY LEADERSHIP. So if you believe in a party's philosophical position for the most part, you really have to vote the party and not the person. nhcigarfan, you sound like today's definition of the modern Republican,

fiscally conservative with a realistic view that we must help those who cannot help themselves BUT NOT WITH BIG GOVERNMENT!!

Now I know it sounds wrong but I'm tellin' ya, I've seen too much of this nonsense first hand and that's the way it works, almost all major votes in State's legislatures are along party lines, no matter what an individual candidate may say, campaign about or whatever.......

Fortunately in New Hampshire, the Democrats will NEVER be able to get control of the House. Once in a great while they manage to get control of the State Senate but if I remember correctly, the Republicans got control back in 2002. The Democrats in New Hampshire dream about a state income tax but their candidates usually don't say it publicly. Once Democratic State Senator (McLarnen, I think her name was?) in Rochester came out and said she supported it. LMAO, guess what, she LOST (District #6, Rochester and a few surrounding towns)

I'd have to agree with CC, the parties are completely in control of what goes on, so why vote for an independent of third party, your candidate is not going to be able to accomplish much even IF they get elected.

It's funny how things change over time. I just finished a book on Texas history, "From Spindletop to WWII". Elections in Texas back around the end of the 19th century ran like 181,000 votes for the Democratic candidate for governor to 9,000 for the Republican candidate. Now here in Texas, every single state wide official (I believe, there may be a Democrat hiding in there somewhere) is a Republican. And since our judges in Texas are elected, almost every single judge in the Houston metro area is Republican.