A little contest

[ilikefishes]

Jive Turkey, I appreciate your thoughts, but I respectfully disagree. If it takes a year and a half for people not to take your words out of context and then continue to argue with you about it even though they're wrong, then they aren't putting the person above the topic, they're elevating themselves. And, again, I never said there was anything wrong with that. Forgive me for seeing through the pretense, but it takes a year and a half to indoctrinate the new people, not to see what is actually going on here. I have no doubt that the members here care dearly about each other and have turned this into a brotherhood rather than a forum for those who have been here long enough to "get it." And that's fine. But there is clearly a fear of new people here that is driving this need to put them in their place. So was their someone who seemingly took over the forum with a dominating personality that makes you worried about it happening again? Just a guess, but this wouldn't be the first place I've seen that happen. And again, I don't put a negative connotation on any of this. I just believe in being honest about what's really going on. Because if the members here were really secure, they wouldn't need to get people to do things the "right way," because they would realize the forum is going to be what it's going to be. And maybe there would still be some hazing, which is what I suggested at the start, but it would be in good fun rather than out of the insecurity of the members. And you're going to try to say that I'm insecure and that I'm defensive and that I don't "get it," but we're grown men, and can't we be honest with each other? Even if the actions don't change — and I never said that I wanted to change anything — I think you would have a lot more fun if you went about this with honesty about your motives here.

He has this place pegged!

[ashauler]

He has this place pegged!

How's that box split and humidor sale working out for ya over on pass fishy?

[Eville]

If there really was a fear of new people here, as you claim there to be, then how do you explain the fact that this board has more than one member? If we are afraid of new people, then how do you explain the presence of respected members here, in this very thread, from every year from 2005 to the present? Your argument simply holds no water. If you piss people off here, it is your own fault. Stop making excuses for yourself. Insecure men are those who blame others for their own shortcomings.