Smooth drawing cigars

[ggiese]

Maybe you would like a Berger and Argenti Entubar. They utilize the entubar bunching process. Seems to me like this bunching process allows channels of air to run through the cigar. Since oxygen is key to combustion, this could be a good a thing!

Here's a page at Tobacconist University that I found very informative: http://tobacconistuniversity.org/tob...m-rolling2.asp

All cigar rollers use the same "bunching" process for long filler cigars. It's in the skill of the roller that the cigar is not bunched too tight. I don't think anyone necessarily has that market cornered (e.g. "the entubar bunching process") - it's more in the quality control process. Even the Cuban cigar factories have been struggling with ensuring their cigars do not have a tight draw.

Fuente does have a very tightly controlled QC process. A number of other factories do as well. Davidoff is another that comes to kind, though (as Will said) Padron and Camacho do as well.

honestly, I've done very well by staying away from cheap cigars. I've noticed my largest issue with draw has usually been with bargain basement stuff.

[FightingFish]

all cigar rollers use the same "bunching" process for long filler cigars.

wrong

[ggiese]

wrong

...Ricardo Montalban made a fortune selling Chrysler cars with his "rich Corinthian leather.." schtick.

[FightingFish]

...Ricardo Montalban made a fortune selling Chrysler cars with his "rich Corinthian leather.." schtick.

Ggiese, I didn't mean to be so vague and blunt. I was drinking last night and can get a little exasperating. My wife has a Hundai, I always say that it has rich Koreanthian leather, lol.

[ggiese]

Ggiese, I didn't mean to be so vague and blunt. I was drinking last night and can get a little exasperating. My wife has a Hundai, I always say that it has rich Koreanthian leather, lol.

Not that it needs to be said, but personal observation leads me to conclude that drinking and forum posting can sometimes lead to foot in mouth disease.

I knew what your were saying, and assumed from that you did not know what I was saying. Don't buy into marketing hype - sometimes it's meant to enlighten but it's always meant to sell.

[FightingFish]

What do you guys think about the different shapes of cigars, in regards to a smooth draw? I seem to find plugs most often under the band on parejo cigars. Usually I can work these out with some rolling between my thumb and index finger. With pyramids or torpedos I find the head of the cigar is more often plugged. This seems to be more catastrophic. When trying to work out the plug, I've ripped the wrapper or ended up cutting too much of the cap.

[kevin7]

wrong

Enlighten us o wise one

[ggiese]

Enlighten us o wise one

I'm quite certain fish is well versed in cigar manufacture and can elucidate the differences between entubar, accordian and book styles of rolling. More importantly - he can talk about the advantages of each and discuss the skill of the roller and how each style matches their ability...

[kevin7]

I'm quite certain fish is well versed in cigar manufacture and can elucidate the differences between entubar, accordian and book styles of rolling. More importantly - he can talk about the advantages of each and discuss the skill of the roller and how each style matches their ability...

I highly fucking doubt it

[FightingFish]

I'm quite certain fish is well versed in cigar manufacture and can elucidate the differences between entubar, accordian and book styles of rolling. More importantly - he can talk about the advantages of each and discuss the skill of the roller and how each style matches their ability...

I'm not very educated in cigar rolling, other than what I've read and tried myself. I simply meant that these styles, that is, entubar, accordian, and book bunching are inherently different. Thus, all torcederos don't use the same bunching technique in regards to long filler cigars.