My point is the complete opposite. When people think this forum is for them to advertise on, I don't like it. I also don't like it when people are complaining about you guys being jerks to them, and I hate when people make dramatic exits from this site. Yeah I think you guys can be jerks, but its peoples choice to be here to take it, and they sure don't have to. It really doesn't bother me personally, so maybe you can stop calling me whiny, unless you can find an instance where I complained about something, not just commented on it's existence. It honestly seems like no matter what I say, you flip it to mean something else, and you continuously are trying to make me sound like I dislike you or your friends or this forum. I'm justifying your behaviour, and you keep thinking that I am "against " the few guys on this forum who are your friends. Its like you can't understand that I don't have any problems with you guys. I do think its insane that you think I'm whiny cause I have literally not whined about anything.