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[ashauler]

Good... wag the finger where it should be wagged

Damn, I don't think I've ever been complimented on my finger wagging. You must have missed which finger I was using.

[CptnBlues63]

I love fanatics......they're so....fanatical.

While I'm not a huge fan of MS and Bill Gates, having worked in the IT industry for close to 20 years, I've had to learn their stuff if I wanted to stay employed. When I first started in computers I was introduced to the Novell networking software which was at the time, far superior to Windows NT 3.1 But I took a look at the market place and saw that MS had the vast majority of it so I pursued cert's in MS's stuff so I could ensure I got a job. I've still never worked anywhere that had any Novell so it's a good thing I didn't pursue Novell cert's or I'd have had a real tough time finding work.

I've noticed a lot of Linux users are very aggressively anti-MS and I've often wondered why. You all behave as if Bill and company bankrupted you, put you in the poor house, drove over your dog and raped your sister. What's up with that? Seriously tc3driver what did MS do to you personally to make you "despise MS with every fiber of your being"?

I'm not a big fan of Macintosh/Apple either, but when I have to work with it, I work with it. It's worth noting that's become a lot easier for me since the newer OS is UNIX based and I know my way around UNIX.


As to the rest of the discussion about Netflix and internet access.....

I pay $8 month for Netflix. I don't know why anybody is paying more since that's what they advertise their service for. I used to watch it on my Wii but about a year ago we bought a new TV and home theater system and the theater system remote has a Netflix button on it so the poor Wii has sat pretty much ignored for a long time now.

I pay about $30/month for my highspeed internet and that gives me 5 Mbps/250 GB's of bandwidth which we don't ever come close to using. Cost for highspeed varies from place to place and depends also on which package you want. You're going to pay a lot more for 100 Mbps than you would for 5 Mbps.

[kevin7]

MS makes my job easier and finds me porn and cigars ,Apple makes a nice music player. I purchase things I am willing to pay for and pass on what I don't see the value in. Ya gotta admit windows ME blew whale cock

[TheGreekTitan]

Raced a few races on Forza the last couple of days, and it's been great. As expected the asshats are already much less prevalent. I think it's a combination of boredom on their part, as well as the promised online matching system to pair like players, both on skill and tendency.

Way to go Microsoft!

Just kidding, it's Turn10 that is supposedly working on that.

[illilli]

MS makes my job easier and finds me porn and cigars ,Apple makes a nice music player. I purchase things I am willing to pay for and pass on what I don't see the value in. Ya gotta admit windows ME blew whale cock

Finally! Something we can ALL agree on! Windows and kevin7 blow whale cock!!! Oh, you meant the ME operating system...my bad...

[badwhale]

I'm not a big fan of the terms used in this convo.

[TheGreekTitan]

I'm not a big fan of the terms used in this convo.

MS makes my job easier and finds me porn and cigars ,Apple makes a nice music player. I purchase things I am willing to pay for and pass on what I don't see the value in. Ya gotta admit windows ME blew whale cock

Finally! Something we can ALL agree on! Windows and kevin7 blow whale cock!!! Oh, you meant the ME operating system...my bad...

I'm not a big fan of the terms used in this convo.

Ha! LMAO!!! I'm a little slow apparently, just got this.

[kevin7]

dammit

[CptnBlues63]

MS makes my job easier and finds me porn and cigars ,Apple makes a nice music player. I purchase things I am willing to pay for and pass on what I don't see the value in. Ya gotta admit windows ME blew whale cock

ROFLMAO

Amen that. I never used it to be completely honest. I have an unopened copy in my desk with the shrink wrap still on it. I knew it was an "Edsel" before the copy was gifted to me so I never touched it. Vista was just another ME and therefore a POS so I never touched it either.

I have copies of most every MS operating system since (and including) DOS. I have about 10 different flavors of Linux and both Open/FreeBSD on CD/DVD in a desk drawer and have Windows XP/7, Redhat Linux, CentOS Linux and OpenBSD running on computers in my home office.

I would have liked to only have to learn one OS (operating system) but that would have limited my employability too much.

I have never understood the generic hatred for certain tech companies.

Me either. I hate them all equally..........

I've worked with all different platforms and each has it's advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I think anybody unwilling to learn new OS's is limiting themselves more than I'm willing to. While I'm no aficionado of Linux/UNIX (I suck at programming/scripting), I know my way around them good enough to work with them. The first computer I ever put my hands on was a Mac and within two weeks I was so far ahead of the class it wasn't funny because it made sense to me and I was able to learn more on my own than I could with the instructor's help. But then I've always been a quick study on most things and have always been willing to learn.

Most don't like change. I refuse to buy an android phone or tablet but that's because I'm accustomed to Apple. I feel lost using something else so I automatically dislike it even if it's a great product.

And therein lies the crux of the situation.

In my experience, it happens like this....

You (a generalization to make my point) started with whichever OS and hung out with other people who used the same OS. They all "hated" the other guys so you decided to "hate" all the rest too. Mostly because you didn't know the other OS's and learning them would take time that you didn't want to spend. It's not that you couldn't, it's that you didn't want to because each has it's own learning curve and some curves are much longer than others. Linux/UNIX used to be prime examples of a longer learning curve. But now with Linux versions like Ubuntu they've become very user friendly and therefore very much like MS and the learning curve has dropped somewhat from what it used to be. I've always been tickled by the fact that the fanatic Linux/UNIX crowd that hate MS have spent so much time and effort making their favorite OS more MS-like. It's a humorous irony that always makes me smile.

I've been unhappy with MS many times.....hell, I've been working with them for most of 20 years so that's unavoidable.....but hate them? Hate Linux/UNIX? Hate Mac/Apple? Hell no, life's to short and that would be a grand waste of time. Besides, I enjoy change and new challenges and pity anybody who doesn't.

[ggiese]

ROFLMAO

Me either. I hate them all equally..........

I've worked with all different platforms and each has it's advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I think anybody unwilling to learn new OS's is limiting themselves more than I'm willing to. While I'm no aficionado of Linux/UNIX (I suck at programming/scripting), I know my way around them good enough to work with them. The first computer I ever put my hands on was a Mac and within two weeks I was so far ahead of the class it wasn't funny because it made sense to me and I was able to learn more on my own than I could with the instructor's help. But then I've always been a quick study on most things and have always been willing to learn.

You (a generalization to make my point) started with whichever OS and hung out with other people who used the same OS. They all "hated" the other guys so you decided to "hate" all the rest too. Mostly because you didn't know the other OS's and learning them would take time that you didn't want to spend. It's not that you couldn't, it's that you didn't want to because each has it's own learning curve and some curves are much longer than others. Linux/UNIX used to be prime examples of a longer learning curve. But now with Linux versions like Ubuntu they've become very user friendly and therefore very much like MS and the learning curve has dropped somewhat from what it used to be. I've always been tickled by the fact that the fanatic Linux/UNIX crowd that hate MS have spent so much time and effort making their favorite OS more MS-like. It's a humorous irony that always makes me smile.

I've been unhappy with MS many times.....hell, I've been working with them for most of 20 years so that's unavoidable.....but hate them? Hate Linux/UNIX? Hate Mac/Apple? Hell no, life's to short and that would be a grand waste of time. Besides, I enjoy change and new challenges and pity anybody who doesn't.

So - I do basically agree with all you're saying and have worked with all of the platforms you mention (including Apple, back in the day). My experiences predate CPM, but I did eventually work through CPM and graduated to DOS. I do believe there is some validity to being part of a "crowd" that likes a certain operating system (I was in various computer user groups many moons ago - and heard/saw the debates). I have noticed in recent times it carries on - you're either "Android" or you're "iOS", but not both... I even see folks evangelizing, trying to convince folks one is better than the other (It's rather comical, actually). But - personally - plain and simple - I dislike certain operating systems (choose one over another) because I don't like the way they do what they do - good, bad or otherwise.

I still primarily use MS (work) - spend a fair amount of time in iOS (play) - AND - use Linux/UNIX when it serves my purpose (mostly work - I've kinda moved away from my "hobby" use)...

[TheGreekTitan]

(Snip).

I dislike certain operating systems (choose one over another) because I don't like the way they do what they do - good, bad or otherwise.

I agree. For work, we have PC's and Surface tablets. Perfect for our needs, everything works together seamlessly in the office and while in the field or truck.

For play, the wife and I have iPads for in the kitchen and on the couch or deck.

Raced a couple career races tonight on Forza. C class is REALLY slow! I'll stick to A and S classes for multiplayer.

[CoventryCat86]

I'm still running Windows XP. My laptop stopped working years ago, it's running XP too and I swear there is some Microsoft conspiracy out there to fock with anyone like me who's still running XP because it used to work great when it was new and now, it's terrible even after having my hard drive wiped every six months. I have no idea what "Windows ME" is. Is that Windows 8 or something?

I tried using the Mac or Apple or whatever it is down at Town Hall and all it did was piss me off. I'm not a graphic designer so I pretty much have no use for Apple/Mac stuff.

I don't have a "tablet" or one of those damn smartassphones with a touch screen because with my cold, calloused fingers, I can't get any damn touch screen to work properly (especially any ATM) and I'm not wasting money on a "tablet" that I will wind up smashing a half an hour after I buy it.

I refuse to play games on computers, I waste enough time on cigar sites and don't have enough time in life to do the things that take priority over playing games on computers (which I think is just about everything).

I thought XBone was X Bone so like badwhale said, I thought it was a porn site.

Sorry, I guess I just don't have much to add to this discussion.

[CptnBlues63]

So - I do basically agree with all you're saying and have worked with all of the platforms you mention (including Apple, back in the day). My experiences predate CPM, but I did eventually work through CPM and graduated to DOS. I do believe there is some validity to being part of a "crowd" that likes a certain operating system (I was in various computer user groups many moons ago - and heard/saw the debates). I have noticed in recent times it carries on - you're either "Android" or you're "iOS", but not both... I even see folks evangelizing, trying to convince folks one is better than the other (It's rather comical, actually). But - personally - plain and simple - I dislike certain operating systems (choose one over another) because I don't like the way they do what they do - good, bad or otherwise.

I still primarily use MS (work) - spend a fair amount of time in iOS (play) - AND - use Linux/UNIX when it serves my purpose (mostly work - I've kinda moved away from my "hobby" use)...

Damn, you must be old!

I missed out on CPM and started in DOS........but then, I was a late bloomer and didn't get into computers until I was already 30 so that could be why too.

I'm stuck using MS as my main OS at home because I do enjoy gaming on my computer and most games just aren't ported to Linux. I still have a Linux box, and XP box and a UNIX box running in my home office. Each serves it's function. The UNIX box is a router/firewall, the Linux box a server and the XP I just kept around because it's my old gaming rig and I can't just toss it after all the years and upgrading so it's my TeamSpeak server........LOL

I have issues with each OS. If someone could magically combine all the best features of each together into one, I think we'd have a winner. Better yet, give me the OS they use in the computer on Star Trek!