Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
What is an excellent driver?

Is it driving skillset?

Is it the ability to parallel park? If so, is somebody who takes 3 minutes to parallel park just as excellent as somebody who takes 20 seconds? How about people who can parallel park using (just) a reverse-180 handbrake turn?

Is it years of accident-free driving? Mileage? Number of moving violations?

Is it speed? Is it car control?

Is it attitude? Is it talent?

If there are "excellent" drivers, then that implies a grades of drivers from excellent -> good -> average -> fair -> poor (or whatever groupings/titles you want to use) ... how do you distinguish them?

There is always the George Carlin definition: "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"

I'm just saying that it appears that you and Kevin (and myself) have different definitions.

George is one of my all time favorites!

You've pretty much itemized a list of what it takes to be an "excellent" driver so I'm not going to repeat it. It's all the above and the 3-C's and patience


Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
Relax ladies ,jeesh its obvious we arent worthy to chew the cheese off the crusty crotch of Will's jockstrap.
I'm sooooo glad I didn't have coffee in my mouth when I saw this or I'd have been cleaning my monitors


Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
96 car pile up north of Toronto Thursday on the 400 (like an Interstate), 'caused' by a localized, sudden, white out.
Or maybe just too many cheese-chewers.

-30 earlier today here, at the end of February. I need a cigar.

FWIW, I know that I am not a good driver. At least the proof of that is slowly fading from the Internet.
I saw that on the news. It never ceases to amaze me how many people don't know what "safe following distance" means. What it is....and why it's a terrific idea to maintain it! You'll know it's me ahead of you on a freeway because I'm the dude with enough room in front of his vehicle to stop should somebody have an accident in front of him.

-32 here this morning (not including the windchill) and I'm darn good and ready for some spring *sighing* Meeting a couple friends for a cigar at my one friends shop......looking forward to that!

I suspect you're a much better driver than you're admitting............LOL...........but I'd be interested in seeing some links............

You tell me your stupid driving stories and I'll tell you mine!