Here in Washington (state), until July 1st of this year, the non-cigarette tobacco tax was 130% + 8.9% sales tax. It went down to 40% + sales tax after July 1st. Here, we were paying 300%+ because of dealer markup for singles and boxes in the B&Ms.
Here in Washington (state), until July 1st of this year, the non-cigarette tobacco tax was 130% + 8.9% sales tax. It went down to 40% + sales tax after July 1st. Here, we were paying 300%+ because of dealer markup for singles and boxes in the B&Ms.
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Originally Posted by TheVitaleMob
I was in MI a coulpe weeks ago and I couldn't believe the prices due to taxes. Here in WV, prices are decent, right around MSRP.
You might try poking around for additional local shops. The shop near my office is pretty good (The Humidor on Thames Street in Newport, RI), if a little expensive.
Then I heard about another shop on the radio (Regency in East Greenwich) that was supposed to have an amazing selection. It was okay, sold a couple niceties like Hemingways, but was a little pricey.
Then, scouring the web a little more, I came across a sketchy-sounding place in West Warwick (not the best of neighborhoods). Turns out it's just around the corner from where I used to live, so I thought I'd stop by there on the way to practice. I just about missed it because it was actually inside a liquor store. I thought a minute about just turning the car off, but it wouldn't kill me to look around.
They have the best selection in the state and some of the best prices I've seen! (and being in a liquor store, they're open 'til 10pm)
So shop around, maybe you'll find a less expensive shop.
But more important... How was the service?
The service was ok. I say ok because while the guy is happy to make cigar recommendations, I always get the impression and feel like I'm bothering him when I try to strike up conversation to learn more about cigars (since I'm a newbie).Originally Posted by SuperChuck
We only have two cigar shops in town, and one of them went out of business :). Good idea about going to a liquor store to look at cigars.
--Question--: I've read on the forums that it is NOT a good idea to buy cigars unless the dealer has them humidified. Should I follow this advice? Did your person at the liquor store keep their smokes humidified?
Thanks!
Pretty sound advice unless you like like smoking dried out cigars.
Did he give you the impression he was annoyed by you?Originally Posted by godfather
He could be a bit on the snobby side. The tobacconist I used to go to in Providence was a little snotty at times. If I'd go in for a pack of cigarettes, he always looked like I was being a pain in his ass, actually purchasing something from his store!
You might want to look outside your town to find a good smoke shop. My favorite shops are located all over the state (which isn't too awful in RI). :)
I was concerned about the state of the cigars in the liquor store would be, too. I figured it would be the usual plexiglass case with the door that doesn't shut all the way. However, this place was really amazing. It was actually a full-service tobacconist's shop, it just happened to be located inside a liquor store.
The brilliant part is the girl working the tobacco counter could do other stuff around the store, like stocking booze, which I imagine reduces the cost of running the tobacco shop.
Godfather,
Where in Cali do you live? If you live in the Bay area or travel up her I can give you the names of a few good shops. As well as the one I work in. As already stated Cali tabacco taxes are at about 47% add on top of that our 8.75% sales taxes, it adds up. The boxes are shipped to the stores pre-tax, then the onwer figures what he owes the state.
Example 100$ box = 47$ in taxes. Total cost to the store is now 147$ + cost of running the store+ profit (onwers gotta eat to) typical mark up is about double that 147$ or 300% of wholesale. Adds up quick huh.
When I visited Providence--I *love* that town--I keep telling my daughter she's going to Brown and we're all going to move up there--I went to a cigar shop called the Red something or other. Smelled great when I walked in there and the guy running the place was very helpful. I don't remember what the prices were like. I only bought one stick--a Monte #2--but he still made me feel like a valued customer.Originally Posted by SuperChuck
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I'll have to give them a look next time I'm up on the hill.
In a former life, I used to work at the bottom of the hill by Waterplace Park (I actually worked next to Washington Park, which is the next park down the river from Waterplace)
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it, he was definitely on the snobby side. I think the next time I go in I'll introduce myself, let him know I'm new to cigars and that I'm interested in trying different cigars to find out what I like and don't like.Originally Posted by SuperChuck
Honestly (I'm sure this is open to debate), I think when younger people like myself (I'm in my mid twenties), get into hobbies like wine or cigars...we're not taken seriously by SOME (_not all_) vendors. I get the impression they think we're not taking this very seriously, we'll phase out of the hobby quickly, or don't have a lot of money to spend and won't become 'frequent customers.' Why? Because we're young in their eyes and they immediately label us like the rest of our age group.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I bet if I was in my 40's I'd probably get a little different treatment. Like I said, I come across the same type of bias with wine. I notice once I prove to them I know a decent amount of information about the topic, I'm taken seriously.
I live in Kirkland, WA. And I paied $15 for my first cigar CAO cameroon tubo II in my local smoke shop about a month ago. I have never gone back there since I realized it was 300%+ price of online reatailers.Originally Posted by TheVitaleMob
I'm 45 and the closest tobacco world guy is not very warm. I have spent at least enough money there for him to recognize me but he is still aloof. Answers with alot of questions with questions. He wants to move cigars and thats about it. But there are 4 other ones that treat me like gold.
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Prices are all over the place here in Chicago. A cigar that sells for $5 in one shop might be $12 in another. The selection is quite varied between the stores, so if 2 stores sell P.G., I can at least remember which one is cheaper. Remembering who has what price for all my favorite smokes gets to be confusing and hard on the gas tank, cruising around at $3.50 a gallon. The widest range I've seen is for the Opus x, which I saw from $20-something up to $60-a-pop at a cigar bar.
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