I bought a 5 pack of these whilst in Turkey recently, had them in my Dor for a while but really didn't help, I've bought machine mades before and these have to be worse than some Alvaro ones I was bought a while back. Draw is far too tight, and one the other day was bitter. Personally I think Jose L Piedra's are the best machine made I've smoked, although it's hit and miss as to how well it's made. Oh, and don't even bother with Guantanamera's, I can't believe good tobacconists actually stock them!