the hero is the gun...

[SuperChuck]

Think about it...Two guys smoking pot in a vacant apartment with a gun present.

They actually didn't have the handgun present; the article says one guy left and returned with the handgun. That makes me think they were just stupid kids getting high.

[cigarsarge]

They were 20 and 27..Not really kids. Chances are if you pull up their rap sheet you will see a lot of history.

People that hang out in vacant buildings, smoke dope and posess firearms...Well it's easy to figure out.

[superman78]

Am i reading this right Silent Chamber talking about how people feel .Have you turned over a new leaf?

[SuperChuck]

They were 20 and 27..Not really kids. Chances are if you pull up their rap sheet you will see a lot of history.

Being 27 doesn't make you mature. My guess is he probably has about the mindset of a 15 year old.

People that hang out in vacant buildings, smoke dope and posess firearms...Well it's easy to figure out.

This actually sounds a lot like my brother-in-law. He's like 23, lives in his mother's house with his wife and kids, doesn't take a damn bit of responsibility, smokes dope on a daily basis, and really thinks he's a big tough guy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he would someday manage to get a gun just to look tough. And if he found a vacant apartment, he'd think it was the greatest place in the world to smoke dope. And when you're high, things like shooting your best friend make total sense (I once sat on the steps of a pub in Amsterdam, unable to determine which voices were real and which were fake).

Point is, he's an idiot, but he certainly wouldn't be hatching some plot to rob a bank or something out of a Dick Tracy novel. Pardon my saying so, but it's a bit ignorant to make a bunch of assumptions about a couple kids based on a couple lines from a newspaper article. It's really not that different to say "they smoke dope and have access to a handgun so they must be criminals" than to say "they were black, so they must be criminals".

[cigarsarge]

Being 27 doesn't make you mature. My guess is he probably has about the mindset of a 15 year old.


This actually sounds a lot like my brother-in-law. He's like 23, lives in his mother's house with his wife and kids, doesn't take a damn bit of responsibility, smokes dope on a daily basis, and really thinks he's a big tough guy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he would someday manage to get a gun just to look tough. And if he found a vacant apartment, he'd think it was the greatest place in the world to smoke dope. And when you're high, things like shooting your best friend make total sense (I once sat on the steps of a pub in Amsterdam, unable to determine which voices were real and which were fake).

Point is, he's an idiot, but he certainly wouldn't be hatching some plot to rob a bank or something out of a Dick Tracy novel. Pardon my saying so, but it's a bit ignorant to make a bunch of assumptions about a couple kids based on a couple lines from a newspaper article. It's really not that different to say "they smoke dope and have access to a handgun so they must be criminals" than to say "they were black, so they must be criminals".

I live in a world where I deal with people like that on a daily basis so I am not ignorant on the subject. I often go into vacant houses and apartments to arrest criminals of all kinds. most of em smoke dope...Which is a crime.. They also are trespassing which is a crime, and 75% of them have access to a firearm. This is in addition to the outstanding charges I am looking to find them on. Just what kind of folks do you believe hang out in these places?

Sounds like in your statement being high is a defense to shooting one's friend. That statment is flawed in the worst manner. If smoking dope makes that kind of thing acceptable in ones mind...Why do it?

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck...It's a bloody duck.

By the way, I make no assumptions of people by race creed or color. I base my opinion of people by their actions. You made an assumption based on no knowledge about the twenty seven year old having the mind of a fifteen year old. Well for what it's worth I have seen some fifteen year olds with a criminal mind that you would not believe.

[bigpoppapuff]

in addition...crown heights isn't the best area of NYC...and the part of crown heights that they were in was worse....

to defend these pieces of shit is amazing to me...they were fucking warts....

[SuperChuck]

in addition...crown heights isn't the best area of NYC...and the part of crown heights that they were in was worse....

to defend these pieces of shit is amazing to me...they were fucking warts....

Ah yes, they live in a bad neighborhood, therefore they are warts on society. There's an enlightened statement.