Religion+Politics=Bad for students

[cigarsarge]

Take it to pm guys...This place has gone through enough lately.

[DPB]

If poeple want this disscussion to die then let it .
Hersey your comments are so wrong its almost sad but humorous. It is very obvious that you have not read the books that are out there that argue against your position. You should try to read them first before posting such comments on a public site. I have read alot on the creationist hypothisis, and it has all been debunked over and over. You attack the theory of evolution but yet you have not given your scientific evidence to prove what you are trying to claim. Funny that you say that evolution is taught as a belief system that is taught as a child. What is religon then? when do we start learning that? Is that after or before we start doing the supertitious rituals?
I dont know how many time one has to say that evolution is not a belief system like religon but it is a understanding of facts that is given with enough supportive evidence to prove that this has happened. To talk about Hitler,Dahmer etc. is a beaten old drum.
Good people to good things bad people to bad things evil people do evil things in the name of religon. What about all the abortion clinics that were blown up and good Dr's trying to help people killed because someone belived they were doing gods work. Look at history and you can see the death done by religon. The Hate crimes ,gay bashing because on feels that god wants them to punish them. (yawn) this is a tired drawn out debate. By the way Hilter was roman catholic and belived he was doing the lords work and has been visted by bishops from rome to keep up what he was doing. To say darwin was a rascist is because this was the language of the times 150 years ago they did not have the scientific tools or means to examine and test his thories but only by observation.But because of his observation, today science has taken it so much further that we do have the means and tools to observe correctly.So much so it is now observed at the genetic level.
Anyway let this thread die.
If you want to discuss this futher you may PM me anytime.
Plenty of great books to read against your position let me know if your interested.
Peace
Doug

[bgmark2]

Yes very interesting...there are a lot of flaws in alot of creatinalists arguements, such as Adam being created in one day...when this can be a period of time in the Hebrew translation, and there were people other than adam...as his children got married, and no not to his mother.

There is no doubt that evolution occurs on a small scale, but to say the source of life came from a single cell, which mutated into fish, birds, dinosaurs, plants, bacteria ect is strtching this a bit far.

if you look at how animals and plants interlate....then this is not done at random...for instance 1 of the first so called evoulved species, or beginning of life species is a bacteria which can convert elementry sulfur into sulfuric acid...which then goes on to dissolve phosphates, into soluble phosphates, which are literally the same as super phosphate fertilizer....which then can grow your tobbacco...even before fertilizers were invented, which was not that long ago. Why would a bacteria mutate to feed on elementry sulphur to convert it into fertlizer for plants....this bacteria can survive also at extreme ph acid concerntrations...then other cells mutate into plants...and the animals that feed off plants. This is not done unintellgently/ randomly as evolutionalists propose.

As far as Hilter and catholics were concerned...there are also an uncountable multidue of demons cast to the earth...cruise missiles and ballistic missiles came from hiltler, here is 666 interpreted
666 could be chi xi stigma in Greek which means:

The 22d, 14th and an obsolete letter (4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; ; number representation

AV-six hundred threescore and six 1; 1

1) six hundred and sixty six, the meaning of which is the basis of much vain speculation



4742 stigma stigma stig’-mah

from a primary stizo (to "stick," i.e. prick); TDNT-7:657,1086; n n

AV-mark 1; 1

1) a mark pricked in or branded upon the body. To ancient oriental usage, slaves and soldiers bore the name or the stamp of their master or commander branded or pricked (cut) into their bodies to indicate what master or general they belonged to, and there were even some devotee’s who stamped themselves in this way with the token of their gods

So it means the cross, the image of the cross is made by Catholics making this image with their right hand.