El Rey del Mundo RL

**cls515** · 11-21-2005, 11:04 PM

Does anyone know if the El Rey del Mundo Robusto Largo is offered in a natural wrapper? I went to a few online sites and all I can find are maduro wrappers. If they are in natural also, anyone know a site which is selling them? Thanks.

**basil** · 11-21-2005, 11:20 PM

I was thinking that the only nat. might be the "Zavalla" - mostly sold in boxes of 40 for around $120-130. To my surprise, a search turned up this: http://www.gothamcigars.com/elreydelmundo.html where all the Robusto, Robusto Larga, and Robusto Suprema are offered in oscuro and natural, as well as the Zavallas, in natural. I don't know the diff, but BigPoppaPuff will likely have some insight.

**cls515** · 11-21-2005, 11:35 PM

cool thanks, ever had any experience with that retailer?

**Bubba -NJ** · 11-22-2005, 04:04 AM

I haven't had the maduro , only the oscuro . Don't know if there is a natural wrapper other than the oscuro . I just put a box of the oscuro in my coolidor that I got ripped for at a brick and mortar store in New Jersey , I guess the price was high because of the tax rate in NJ . Paid about $110.00 . I will only buy boxes in P.A. at b&m or on-line from now on . Most local b&m stores I've been to don't seem to want to sell full boxes in NJ . Try JR's or Holt's on-line for good prices .

**basil** · 11-22-2005, 10:21 AM

There isn't a maduro. And, oscuro isn't natural, it's a shade darker than mad. - their darkest wrapper. I have no idea what the zavalla is and have no experience with any of these cigars in natural. I can say that the three sizes, with oscuro wrappers, are all excellent, the regular robusto my favorite. I have had no dealings with gotham cigars. Holts, as bubba in NJ says, are reputable and good to deal with.

**cls515** · 11-22-2005, 07:05 PM

Basil, are you sure there isn't maduro? It is listed on Atlanticcigars and Holts, but nothing else. I heard good things about the natural, but not much on the oscuro. I was just going to buy a box and see what they are about.

**Bubba -NJ** · 11-23-2005, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by basil

There isn't a maduro. And, oscuro isn't natural, it's a shade darker than mad. - their darkest wrapper. I have no idea what the zavalla is and have no experience with any of these cigars in natural. I can say that the three sizes, with oscuro wrappers, are all excellent, the regular robusto my favorite. I have had no dealings with gotham cigars. Holts, as bubba in NJ says, are reputable and good to deal with.

Thank you for the wrapper lesson , I wasn't quite sure what the oscuro wrapper is . Good to know .

**basil** · 11-23-2005, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by cls515

Basil, are you sure there isn't maduro? It is listed on Atlanticcigars and Holts, but nothing else. I heard good things about the natural, but not much on the oscuro. I was just going to buy a box and see what they are about.

98% sure - I'm betting that they're calling the oscuro a maduro. Not really a mistake on their part; most people - customers - are more familiar with the term "maduro" and are not likely to associate the term "oscuro" with dark wrapper.

**Bubba -NJ** · 11-23-2005, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by basil

98% sure - I'm betting that they're calling the oscuro a maduro. Not really a mistake on their part; most people - customers - are more familiar with the term "maduro" and are not likely to associate the term "oscuro" with dark wrapper.

Well whatever they want to call it , I love it . Although I'm not a big maduro fan but these are great .