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    Here is an article that was sent to me I thought was interesting:

    Time Magazine is publishing a shocking interview with an Iraqi suicide
    bomber. It's mind-boggling to understand, but just like WWII when America
    came to understand and accept the barbarism of the Nazis and Japs, so must
    Americans come to grips with our current enemy, the Islamic militants and
    how they view America .

    To help explain this, consider Brigitte Gabriel, a native of the Arab world,
    and the former news anchor of World News for Middle East Television.

    Now a Contributing Editor for FamilySecurityMatters.com, Gabriel wants
    viewers and listeners to know the truth about what the Arab World thinks of
    Senator Durbin's remarks, the alleged so-called "abuses" at Gitmo (a joke
    she calls it), and the Arab ideology which views the mettle of a man as the
    brutal way they treat their enemy.

    As a child, Gabriel's own home was destroyed by radical Islamists because
    she was a Christian. She spent 2 1/2 months in the hospital and then lived
    under-ground for 7 years with no electricity and little food. THEN she rose
    to become a news anchor, and later moved to the US where she's a true
    American success story - own business, husband, two kids, etc.

    Here is the excellent OpEd by Brigitte.
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    WHAT THE ARAB WORLD THINKS
    By Brigitte Gabriel


    Torture is accepted and even expected in the Arab world. Yes, I know what
    you're thinking-that's not politically correct in most mainstream media. And
    you know some nice Arabs who have immigrated to America. But it's the truth
    in the Arab world. Might makes right. Real men don't eat quiche. They prove
    their manhood by the way they treat their enemy. After all it's what
    Muhammad did to the unbelievers - Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians in the
    Quoran - the 'holy book' allegedly mishandled in Guantanamo prison.

    Arab Muslim men gain honor by shaming, belittling, abusing and torturing
    their enemy in the most horrific ways. Just look at how the Palestinians
    treat so-called collaborators by disemboweling them and hanging them upside
    down in Manger Square in Bethlehem. Look at the terrorist torture chambers
    that the coalition forces recently uncovered in Iraq.

    When people refer to the prisons of Saddam Hussein and his regime they think
    he is the extreme exception. Not so! The truth is his torture tactics are
    quite the norm in the Arab world. If you want to see torture that is beyond
    what any Westerner can ever imagine please go to (
    http://www.masada2000.org/impalement.asx
    <http://www.masada2000.org/impalement.asx> ) Yes, you read it right,
    impalement. You'll get a glimpse of what the Arabs do to their own people.

    As someone who came from the Arab world and knows how they think, it
    frustrates me to see self-appointed righteous minded politicians and media
    pundits oblivious to Arabic culture and thinking, criticizing America's
    actions at Guantanamo. These are a bunch of al Qaeda jihadists who were
    captured while bent on killing us - the kaffirs or 'unbelievers. They laugh
    watching our government bend over backwards, forwards and sideways trying to
    appease the critics. The more we stumble over ourselves questioning our
    goals and tactics, the more they think we are weak and easy to defeat.

    They smirk because they believe that Americans have demonstrated how stupid
    and weak they are by caving in to stories about maltreatment of Guantanamo
    detainees. They are watching our critics in this country and counting on
    them to embolden the radical Islamic cause and weaken our resolve.

    Actually, Gitmo is a joke as far as the Arabs are concerned. Prison? You
    call that a prison? Let me tell you what some of the prisoners call
    Guantanamo , "Al muntazah al-dini lilmujaheden al Muslimin ," The Religious
    Resort for Islamic Militants.


    (note: It strikes me as tragically ironic that when my friends and
    colleagues were imprisoned and tortured in North Vietnam's horrific
    confinement facilities (some for over 7 years), no one in America except
    their families complained. Where was the "Oh my God look what is happening
    to our prisoners" crowd then? Certainly not the press, who believed Jane
    Fonda when she said they were well treated; certainly not the Johnson
    administration, who directly told the families of our prisoners to 'be
    quiet' and not raise the awareness of their husbands, fathers, and sons, and
    certainly not the GD ACLU!). JCM

    They are given three halal meals a day in accordance to their religious
    dictates. How many kosher prisons are there in the Arabic world? None. Jews
    captured in the Arab world are butchered like those obscene pictures taken
    in Ramallah during the frenzied slaughter of two Israeli reservists who got
    lost. Remember the Palestinian man holding his red, Jewish blood dripping
    hands, high above his head in victory?

    Remember Nick Berg's head being held high also?

    Most of these detainees never had three meals a day in their entire life.
    They are gaining weight, and are living in what they refer to in Arabic as
    "Al-Jannah ," paradise. They have radio, television, soccer games,
    air-conditioning, clean clothes, servants, meaning American GIs, who wait on
    them hand and foot. They have Islamic chaplains and handed Qu'rans, the
    social hate guide against Infidels, by people so concerned as not to offend
    that they wear latex gloves and carry the book with two hands.

    Many Muslims in the Middle East would gladly give up their poverty,
    dictatorial governments, corrupt leaders and social bondage to enjoy the
    relative luxuries Guantanamo offers. They have free medical care, better
    than millions of uninsured Americans and our military men and women serving
    on the jihadists' battlefield. Some of them who couldn't afford to see an
    optometrist now have glasses and can see and read their Qu'ran. Others who
    never had the opportunity to see a dentist now have a free dental plan. It
    has become such a joke; we even stop interrogations to let them take prayer
    breaks demanded by their religion.

    As an Arab, I can tell you that Illinois Democratic Senator Richard Durbin
    is aiding and abetting the goals and strategy of Islamic jihadists who have
    declared war on the United States. Where was Durbin's comparison to the
    Nazis when we found the torture chambers in Iraq ? Where was Durbin's
    comparison to Soviet gulags when we found the hundreds of thousands of
    bodies in Saddam's mass graves?

    Where was Durbin's head when he compared prisoners captured on the field of
    battle to the internment of Japanese American civilians during WWII? OK,
    apologize to unarmed citizens, not fighters with weapons in their hands.
    Where was Durbin when he compared Gitmo and Abu Ghraib to the industry of
    death that murdered 6 million Jewish men, women and children during WWII? If
    anything his heart and mind were in the jihadists terrorists' camp. If you
    see what story is being downloaded and shared by viewers of the al Jazeera
    web site you will find the story on Durbin's comments the winner.

    If I were an Islamic terrorist I would be thanking Durbin and forwarding his
    views to all my fellow fanatics. His reckless comments fuel the fanatic
    frenzied jihadists, motivating them to blow themselves up in the midst of
    innocent civilians, savagely cut the heads of helpless hostages and devote
    themselves to killing the infidel who could be your neighbor stationed in
    Iraq. Just like the Quran says they should.

    Dick Durbin is an unwitting champion of Islamic radical fundamentalists. His
    comments should be known from this day forward as a " Durbinization" of the
    facts. To demonize something grossly out of proportion to what the enemy is
    doing is to Durbinize. Gitmo and Abu Ghraib have been Durbinized and the
    Arab world loves it. They laugh at Durbin because he's supporting their
    belief in the destruction of our country and civilization.

    The shame is Durbin doesn't have a clue as to what he's done. As far as he's
    concerned, he did the right thing for the Islamic radical detainees living
    high on the proverbial hog in Gitmo . What he really did was made them
    laugh; laugh at us for being fools and not real men. Now it's time to see if
    the voters in Illinois and his fellow members of Congress are men and women
    enough to tell the Moslem world Durbin isn't our real man.

    Brigitte Gabriel is the former news anchor of World News for Middle East
    television, and now a Contributing Editor of FamilySecurityMatters.com and
    the founder of AmericanCongressforTruth.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWidow
    As a child, Gabriel's own home was destroyed by radical Islamists because
    she was a Christian.

    (snip)

    As someone who came from the Arab world and knows how they think, it
    frustrates me to see self-appointed righteous minded politicians and media
    pundits oblivious to Arabic culture and thinking, criticizing America's
    actions at Guantanamo. These are a bunch of al Qaeda jihadists who were
    captured while bent on killing us - the kaffirs or 'unbelievers.
    Um, now call me crazy, but I would think having her house destroyed by radical Islamists would give her give of a negative bias...

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    Well no shit, what do you expect her to be happy that her home got destroyed? "Gee thanks Mr. Terrorist, I really appreciate that"
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    Watching that video wasn't to shocking. I remember people telling me about "Chop Chop" square in Saudi.

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    Anyone have cliffnotes?

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    If you ever go to Saudi, or Turkey, or any other middle east country...you really appreciate every freedom, right, and justice this nation gives you when you return.

    (And yes, I've been to Saudi and Turkey)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilentChamber
    Anyone have cliffnotes?
    Summary:

    Terrorists are bastards and they think we are pussies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopaka
    Watching that video wasn't to shocking. I remember people telling me about "Chop Chop" square in Saudi.
    I'm not even sure if that video is real or not, what is more shocking is the fact that they do that stuff somewhere out there. Its not half as bad as the "Faces of Death" videos I've seen.
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