Arrest Eight In Counterfeit Cuban Cigar Ring

[Moheganson]

It didn't seem to me like any rhetoric, just general facts and figures that are very true. Counterfeiting is a huuuuuuge business.

Why did you get all jumpy Mohegan? Also, yes, on quite a few sizes of PAM, PAN, PA 64, PA 26's, prices can average around 25 and people do think they are worth it. Same with some opus X's and rare fuente's. And besides, he stated premium average between 5-9 dollars, but some go as high as 25 and are considered worth it by many aficionados, so he wasn't saying every premium was that much.

Just take a big sip of your finest alcoholic beverage, sit back in a big leather chair and smoke a stogie Mohegan, nothing wrong with what Shakespeare posted.

It's not a matter of being "all jumpy" so there's no need for your snide comment. Most of his comments were NOT "facts and figures" as you said, but rather his opinions cleverly disguised as facts and it looks you took the bait, hook, line and sinker. He was repeating the common misconception that "most of the so called "Cuban" cigars sold around the US are actually fake" and I stated that I don't believe that for one minute. He also went on to make other statements which tried to convince the reader that Cuban cigars cost many times more than they really do.

I think is disingenuous for an American cigar merchant who obviously cannot sell Cuban cigars to start spewing the "rhetoric" by using scare tactics and half truths which certainly seems designed to discourage people from seeking out Cuban cigars so im my opinion there is indeed something "wrong" with what he posted.

Please spare me your condescending advice about sitting in a leather chair.

[TheSilentChamber]

--- look I'm pointed.

[Island Epicurean]

Hey;

I do take exception that Canada is one step away from socialism. The reason we tax cigars and booze so heavily is because we have an incredibly comprehensive health care system. The logic behind the gigantic tobacco taxes is that they cause poor health which in turns strains the health care system. While I don't think cigars are a major cause of poor health, cigarettes definitly are. So, in order to offset the cost of tobacco related illnesses, both the Federal and Provincial governments tax the hell out of tobacco. We are NOT socialist.

[TheSilentChamber]

Canada = Comunist Come on now... the "=" sign does not lie

[Island Epicurean]

Ha ha ha, well if there is an equal sign I guess it must be true........

[CoventryCat86]

Hey;

I do take exception that Canada is one step away from socialism. The reason we tax cigars and booze so heavily is because we have an incredibly comprehensive health care system. The logic behind the gigantic tobacco taxes is that they cause poor health which in turns strains the health care system. While I don't think cigars are a major cause of poor health, cigarettes definitly are. So, in order to offset the cost of tobacco related illnesses, both the Federal and Provincial governments tax the hell out of tobacco. We are NOT socialist.

I don't think anyone said Canada was "Socialist" but Canada is probably more socialist leaning than the United States. Canada's "comprehensive health care system" has its good points but it's a system that has many, many problems as well and is far from perfect. I would suggest that if you'd like to debate the pros and cons of it that you start a thread in the "Politics" forum.

Shakespere seems like a nice person but I wasn't particularly taken with statements and opinions on Cuban cigars which I see way too many times from other United States cigar vendors.

[Island Epicurean]

While I am a little busy now, I think you hit the nail on the head CC. While our health care system is somewhat beneficial, given its poor efficency rating, it needs much improvement. When work slacks up a bit I think I may go on a bit of a rant in the politics forum. It should be interesting to get the American perspective.

[CoventryCat86]

While I am a little busy now, I think you hit the nail on the head CC. While our health care system is somewhat beneficial, given its poor efficency rating, it needs much improvement. When work slacks up a bit I think I may go on a bit of a rant in the politics forum. It should be interesting to get the American perspective.

LOL!! Hey, the whole health care debate is certainlly an interesting one AND it is on the minds more and more these days with the average American citizen. I probably won't get involved in a discussion here on it because I just like talking about cigars here and only enjoy the "Politics" forum on CSmokers for the needed beatdowns of my "favorite" people like fpdoc and the like.

[hp-^]

I don't have a problem with Shakespeare's post.