The Death of Cigar Smoking here?

[Bubba -NJ]

Sometimes I'm able to smoke at work (when I'm on 3rd shift or 2nd shift) , during 1st shift it is much harder to get away with it , I work in a non-smoking building that has a Cigar Bar in it that is only open on certain days from about 6 p.m. to about 10 p.m. However , I can get into the cigar bar during 1st shift and light up during lunch break , I'm waiting for someone to tell me I can't smoke in the cigar bar (sounds ridiculous)but I know it's coming , with all these crazy non-smoking laws . I don't get much time at home to enjoy a cigar because I love being with my kids and Wife , when they go to bed during the summer , I stay up late and smoke on the front porch . I've got to get a house with an attached garage that stays at a somewhat decent temperature during the winter months . I've never been a bar person but if there is a "Cigar Bar" close enough to me I might start visiting once in a while . I live in New Jersey , the land of crooked , lieing , politicians . If you have the money in NJ , you can have the laws written the way you want them . Leave the smoking choice up to the Bar and Restaurant owners , general public place bans like malls , fast food , movie theaters and retail stores are fine with me but leave the Bars and Restaurants to decide for themselves .

[thepyrofish]

Here in Alberta, a law was jsut passed that forbids smoking in any public place where minors are allowed to be present. This law means nothing to me becasue the city I live in has had the very same law in place as a bylaw for a couple years. Smoking is permitted in most bars here, but unfortunately I too have to fight to light up a cigar in them. One place we made sure we asked first...the hostess idn;t see why it would be a problem. We asked her to doublecheck with a manager, who said it was fine. A thirs of the way through my smoke (a third at the most) We were told that they were recieving complaints and we would have to put them out. We argued, and convinced them to turn on the ceiling fans and let us be. This lasted for another 20 minutes before the owner had to come ask us again to extinguish. I haven't been back to that lounge since.

[Kenyth]

You know, I think I'm a pretty reasonable guy. I support no smoking in family restaurants or places where children are allowed. I can even support no smoking in the house because of children.

When they want to ban smoking in bars, adult restaurants, clubs, smoking lounges, tobacco stores, etc. Things have gone way too far. This has long ceased having anything to do with non-smokers rights and turned into a witch hunt.

Our "land of the free, home of the brave" is rapidly turning into "land of the kinda-sorta-free, home of the politically correct"

[cigar no baka]

If this anti-smoking nonsense ever comes to my area, I am going to start recruiting for my Smokers rights club. Our main activity will be to attend every city council meeting and all light up every time to bring the media screaming down on these Nazis.

I'm not going to fight for smoking everywhere anytime. But bars, cigar shops, and other places where adults are the only patrons, they need to let the retailer decide and not force more nanny-state shit down our throats.

[prophetic_joe]

Our "land of the free, home of the brave" is rapidly turning into "land of the kinda-sorta-free, home of the politically correct"

Damn you read my mind. Put that perfectly. I agree with some anti-smoking laws myself but non-smoking bars is just stupid, I must have been sick the day our brains were removed from are heads and thus took away the ability to decide for ourselves if we wanted the places we go or the places we own to allow smoking. The way I see it a bar is private property. If I buy a bar I own it so it would make sense for me to be allowed to say what goes on in it. I was at the bar last night with some work buddies and we had four of us just sitting around smoking cigars, it'll be a real shame when experiences like that are no longer allowed.

[slcraiders]

Utah is another non-smoker-friendly state. We can only smoke in private clubs and they are currently moving in the direction to outlaw that as well. There is a law against smoking in tobacco shops. Hell, I get dirty looks from people when I cross the border into Nevada and smoke a cigar in a casino as if I am am being a nusaince to their gambling experience or something. To me, smoking a cigar is part of that experience. What goes better with a drink and a game of cards? I know that the casino bit is off-subject, but I am just venting. Arggggghhhhh

[MadAl]

We've been "smoke-free" for a few years now. It sucks, especially in the winter months. I don't smoke in the house, so I look forward to the all to few warm winter days, and meeting with friends at smoking lounges. Hopefully the tide will turn and all this foolishness will be dealt with logically.

[drew_goring]

We've been "smoke-free" for a few years now. It sucks, especially in the winter months. I don't smoke in the house, so I look forward to the all to few warm winter days, and meeting with friends at smoking lounges. Hopefully the tide will turn and all this foolishness will be dealt with logically.

Yes, up here in Edmonton, smoking is banned in all public places. There was a bar owner that resorted to parking a school bus outside of his bar to give his smoking customers a warm place to smoke.

[Monk]

Well I feel better..... to a degree. that is. Its nice to see that so many are of the same mind, not that I am surprised...

I guess the difficult thing with me is smoking at home isn't much of an option during non-good weather months since one of my cats has terrible asthma. The restriction of not having a lounge or something to go to will really make the non-summer months difficult...

-W.

[NullSmurf]

I found one here in Denver that seems to be best of all worlds - except that I'm not into that kind of Jazz. The owner designed and built the establishment around his love of cigars, but the actual bar is smoke free. There is a well laid out in a rectangular shape with a cigar shop on one end, a HERF loung in the middle, and a bar on the other end. Check out the web page: http://www.therobustoroom.com/

[porschesales225]

Louisiana doesnt have any bar bans but i was at this bar and the bartender told me i cant smoke my cigar in there. after pointing out the 9 packs of cowboy killers that were being smoked all i once i asked how it is that they could discriminate against me.......
The owner stopped by and asked what the problem was so i explained that there is no way for them to decide that my 1 cigar is any different from the 75-150 cigarrettes being smoked at any given time in the foggy joint. he apologized for his bartender bought me a beer and told me not to worry about the *uss*s in the bar. MY kinda guy.

*legally is a strong word so i removed it*

[Kenyth]

Louisiana doesnt have any bar bans but i was at this bar and the bartender told me i cant smoke my cigar in there. after pointing out the 9 packs of cowboy killers that were being smoked all i once i asked how it is that they could legally discriminate against me.......
The owner stopped by and asked what the problem was so i explained that there is no way for them to decide that my 1 cigar is any different from the 75-150 cigarrettes being smoked at any given time in the foggy joint. I also reminded him that legally unless there is NO SMoking i can light up what i choose he apologized for his bartender bought me a beer and told me not to worry about the *uss*s in the bar. MY kinda guy.

Not true. The one who owns the establishment can say what can and can't be smoked in there. It's his establishment and he makes the rules. You can't legally be discriminated on because of age, sex, race or religion. Everything else is fair game.