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    Guys - Rod really doesn't deserve this and I ask that you please cut him a tad bit of slack. He has proven himself over the last six years to be a good guy - and he established a cigar board community which is currently experiencing some "issues" but generally is a great place to hang out. The growth of the place has been phenominal, but as a result the number of asshats showing up will match that growth. It's a very frustrating problem, and is much more a complex issue to deal with than here. I sincerely hope Hex never has to be in Rod's position, but I'm sure Hex's vision would be to see this place become something like CigarPass in size - so it's inevitable.

    I think the whole episose between Rod and CC will be worked out. What I'm VERY concerned about is the backlash this whole situation has created. The bigger issue is who this person was who violated a trust. That really has caused an uproar in three different cigar communities. Whoever captured this conversation said in frustration and passed it along to Rod had only one thing in mind - to cause maximum damage to CC's reputation. If I were Rod and read what was in that thread I'd be pissed as hell. But, and I think Rod understands this (I'm not going to speak on his behalf) given the context in which it was said you could understand what CC was doing. Should he not have posted what he did? You betcha - and I think CC will address that with Rod. But the fact remains - whoever passed that info on to Rod should be drawn, quartered, tarred and feathered. That really was low - and in my estimation - was done with maliciousness at heart. I really would like their explanation as to why they did it - because it may have been something entirely innocent - we don't know because we've not been offered an explanation.

    Also, I believe I know Rod as much as I know Hex. Both are very great guys. I may be wrong, but I really find it hard to believe either would attempt to hack into another cigar board to "spy". It is not in either of their character's. If I learned otherwise I would feel very much confused and betrayed.

    Bottom line - this whole situation has three cigar communities left trying to recover from this mess. Some members in those communities will just let it go because, after all, the discussion is about cigars not drama. But - there are those in those three communities who have developed deep friendships and those friendships are really being tested right now. This is tearing apart the family. I hope it not only resolves itself, but it also leads to a tighter bond between us. And I hope relationships like the one between CC and Rod can be repaired - it will take some doing, but I really think it's worth it in the long run.

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    Horseshit George. Rod is doing the asshat dance and you know it. Why should he be cut more slack than any other established BOTL who has screwed the pooch? Lame ass, bullshit excuses of why his IP was logged trying to access the admin section. Protecting a scumbag coward. Why does he have CSmokers bookmarked in a such a prominent spot that someone would confuse it for his own site, a friend in his house on his own computer no less, when he hasn't had a nice thing to say about Hex or CSmokers, ever?

    This thing stinks from top to bottom and it shouldn't be excused and glossed over because it's Rod.

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    I've spent way to much time researching this to be productive in areas that really matter. I feel I am doing my job as the administrator and informing the community about what I know from analyzing the logs. I'm ready to drop this mess completely as soon as whom ever compromised the trust of this community steps up to the plate and apologizes.

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    the dog ate your homework??...
    there was a flood??....


    bullshit is bullshit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
    the dog ate your homework??...
    there was a flood??....


    bullshit is bullshit...
    X2...Don't insult us with your bullshit excuses.
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    i don't understand how rod can think he can come here and give that lame ass excuse for fucking up as big as he did and think everything's going to be ok. rod, you fucked up real big, man. denying it only makes you look like a spineless pussy. and protecting the one who cried to you only makes you look more guilty. you may have some people fooled, but not everyone. do the right thing.

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    You fuggin' people are unbelievable. The rat is your problem. If someone told you something in confidence you wouldn't devulge the source, or would you? If you would that says a hell of alot about your character. In my opinion Rod deserved to know what was being said. The remarks as i understand them were unfortunate and in bad form. Someone who feels the same way I do told him. Get over it. If you don't want shit you say coming back to haunt you then day say the shit. From what i can see the logs say there were attempts that could very easily have been an inocent blunder. Nothing was tampered with, no files corrupted, nothing was seen that shouldn't be seen. Hex, you're an idiot. The rest of you only qualify as jackasses. You want a piece of Rod, take a piece of me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samclemmons
    You fuggin' people are unbelievable. The rat is your problem. If someone told you something in confidence you wouldn't devulge the source, or would you? If you would that says a hell of alot about your character. In my opinion Rod deserved to know what was being said. The remarks as i understand them were unfortunate and in bad form. Someone who feels the same way I do told him. Get over it. If you don't want shit you say coming back to haunt you then day say the shit. From what i can see the logs say there were attempts that could very easily have been an inocent blunder. Nothing was tampered with, no files corrupted, nothing was seen that shouldn't be seen. Hex, you're an idiot. The rest of you only qualify as jackasses. You want a piece of Rod, take a piece of me too.

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    All I'm asking for is honesty Sam. I've made it clear that I don't agree with what was said. But at the same time when something arguably shady is going on behind the scenes it is my duty to report it to my community. If that makes me an idiot, then I'm guilty as charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samclemmons
    You fuggin' people are unbelievable. The rat is your problem. If someone told you something in confidence you wouldn't devulge the source, or would you? If you would that says a hell of alot about your character. In my opinion Rod deserved to know what was being said. The remarks as i understand them were unfortunate and in bad form. Someone who feels the same way I do told him. Get over it. If you don't want shit you say coming back to haunt you then day say the shit. From what i can see the logs say there were attempts that could very easily have been an inocent blunder. Nothing was tampered with, no files corrupted, nothing was seen that shouldn't be seen. Hex, you're an idiot. The rest of you only qualify as jackasses. You want a piece of Rod, take a piece of me too.

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    i don't give a shit who you are. the person who went to rod did exactly what you say says a hell of a lot about one's character. and we have a right to know what that is. we don't want that in our community. rod has nothing to say in his defense so someone a little more well-spoken has to come speak for him? that's bullshit. fuck you, rod and what CP has become-a community of assholes!


    who the fuck are you to come here and call us all jackasses and hex an idiot because we want to know the truth? what does that speak of your character?

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    sam comes strong with internet muscle flexing.....cool...

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    I don't agree with the "tharshing" of Rod or Sam, both are great guys.

    Maybe I'm just not that up on Technology web board stuff, but what "rod" did was look at the home page, whose on, and then tried to "log in" as an admin?

    And when I say "log in" that's not like the member log in, that's like the log in to change the format of the board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samclemmons
    You fuggin' people are unbelievable. The rat is your problem. If someone told you something in confidence you wouldn't devulge the source, or would you? If you would that says a hell of alot about your character. In my opinion Rod deserved to know what was being said. The remarks as i understand them were unfortunate and in bad form. Someone who feels the same way I do told him. Get over it. If you don't want shit you say coming back to haunt you then day say the shit. From what i can see the logs say there were attempts that could very easily have been an inocent blunder. Nothing was tampered with, no files corrupted, nothing was seen that shouldn't be seen. Hex, you're an idiot. The rest of you only qualify as jackasses.. You want a piece of Rod, take a piece of me too

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    Neal that was uncalled for.

    But your right the Rat is the problem. The person who betrayed the trust. While we want Rod to give up the person, we are asking him to do the samething that we are angry about. Betray the trust. The person will be found. Nothing you do in this (CSmokers, CP, Snobs) community isn't made known.

    As for CC and Rod they have been around for awhile and will work these out as long as we don't throw Gas on the fire. Friends have falling out every once in a while, but if they are real friend's they get over it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by samclemmons
    You fuggin' people are unbelievable. The rat is your problem. If someone told you something in confidence you wouldn't devulge the source, or would you? If you would that says a hell of alot about your character. In my opinion Rod deserved to know what was being said. The remarks as i understand them were unfortunate and in bad form. Someone who feels the same way I do told him. Get over it. If you don't want shit you say coming back to haunt you then day say the shit. From what i can see the logs say there were attempts that could very easily have been an inocent blunder. Nothing was tampered with, no files corrupted, nothing was seen that shouldn't be seen. Hex, you're an idiot. The rest of you only qualify as jackasses. You want a piece of Rod, take a piece of me too.

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    Hi Neal !!!!!........ LOL
    I'm not big on doing reviews, tobacco doesn't taste like "cocoa" or "nutty" or "mocha" to me, it tastes like freakin' TOBACCO. I know what I like and I really don't care what other people think of other cigars. I've never read a review and said to myself "Wow, that sounds like a cigar I'd like to try!"

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    Rod's explanination lacks any substance. The truth needs to and must come out.

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    drake you're a pimple on a gnats ass. Who cares what you want you little flake. Your monosyllabic routine doesn't really illustrate what dumb little phuktard you are. The rat is your problem. You wanna know little feller? Hmmmm? You figure it out then. Rod doesn't owe you shit and if I knew I wouldn't tell you either and but not because I would be betraying a confidence but because your an ignorant little shit that has hisself all swelled up with bullshit. Take it on the road little man.

    Hex - You got your answer. Accept it or don't. To continue this witchhunt is gonna hurt you more than it hurts anyone else. Rod has always been a standup guy. I've known him a long time. This goes waaaay against character for him and you're just gonna have to believe that.

    See you in the funny papers drakey, ya little git.

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