Cigar Health Question

**bsterr** · 03-10-2006, 08:10 PM

Thank you to the 2 or 3 people that actually bothered with a real answer.

Responses to the rest of those that wasted my time...

"Tobacco causes cancer, along with a host of other problems, including heart disease. So if it is really a concern, don't smoke any at all."

- The quantity of tobacco is undoubtedly a crucial factor, so this is a worthless comment.

"Life will kill, eventually. Christopher Reeve's wife never smoked and she died of lung cancer..... My grandfather smoked 2 or 3 packs of cigarettes a day for 45 years. Not a drop of cancer."

- Basing overall probabilities on one or two random cases is as dumb as seeing 5 consecutive roulette spins land on black and concluding that the ball always lands on black.

"So, I smoke on average 3 per week or 3 x 52 = 156 per year X .00274 = .42744 or 42.7% chance of getting cancer. If I were the average smoker, then almost half of us on this forum would be getting cancer. This is not true.."

- It could be true, half of the forum may very well get cancer. Last time I checked, it does not appear immediately after smoking, and pretending to know the % of people here who will get cancer is not helpful. I'm certainly not saying that 1/2 eventually will as a result of smoking cigars, but basing general probabilities on the current % of forum members with cancer is ridiculous.

"I think your next step would be to go to the National Cattlemen's Beef Association and check ask the correlation between red meat and heart disease...."

- If I wanted to know that, I wouldn't be posting to a cigar forum

**Shagaroo** · 03-10-2006, 08:20 PM

Since you are obviously a dumbass, I am gonna cut ya come slack and give you a chance to crawl outa the hole you just dug for yourself. Check yourself, before you wreck yourself puddin' head.

Originally Posted by bsterr

Thank you to the 2 or 3 people that actually bothered with a real answer.

Responses to the rest of those that wasted my time...

- The quantity of tobacco is undoubtedly a crucial factor, so this is a worthless comment.

- Basing overall probabilities on one or two random cases is as dumb as seeing 5 consecutive roulette spins land on black and concluding that the ball always lands on black.

- It could be true, half of the forum may very well get cancer. Last time I checked, it does not appear immediately after smoking, and pretending to know the % of people here who will get cancer is not helpful. I'm certainly not saying that 1/2 eventually will as a result of smoking cigars, but basing general probabilities on the current % of forum members with cancer is ridiculous.

- If I wanted to know that, I wouldn't be posting to a cigar forum

**illilli** · 03-10-2006, 08:38 PM

So, did you read those threads that linked to actual statistics? Listen, we have a little fun with people and take subjects a little lightly. Most people are intelligent enough to know that you cannot put a percentage chance of getting cancer on the number of cigars you smoke.

Further, it is ludicrous (sp?) to think that you can control it by cutting down the amount you smoke in order to lower your risk to a reasonable level as you originally suggested.

You started the fun though by making the statement:

OK, I know a few things:
- If you smoke a cigar per day, you'll probably get cancer
- If you smoke a cigar per year, it will probably have no tangible effect

Where did you get this? You make that up or did you hear it from your parents? You state that as if it is absolute FACT.

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So, I went to my doctor the other day and said, "Doctor, I want to lower my risk for heart disease, but I only want to exercise and eat right enough of the time so that I only have a 15-20% chance of getting it. I know that if I don't exercise or eat right, I will probably have a heart attack and that if I exercise all the time and eat nothing but healthy balanced foods, I probably won't have a heart attack."

**Bkcloud114** · 03-10-2006, 08:40 PM

I'm not in a very good mood today with all the shit that's been going on........

Take a hike F*CK-BAG

**kevin7** · 03-10-2006, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by bsterr

Thank you to the 2 or 3 peoplebla bla bla I smoke pole bla bla bla

Dont like the answers then too fucking bad dumass. I despise fucking tards coming here and asking stupid idiotic drivelish bullshit questions then getting all polly pissypants when you dont like the answer we give. Like we are all going to line up and spout off some priophetic stuff for a 2 post newbie piece of shit cumbucket. Fuck off and die for what I care douchebag or stick around because we took a poll and guess what. You are my new chew toy for a day, asshat. I hope you dont bleed freely

Kevin7. Official asshat welcoming Officer

bigpoppapuff · 03-10-2006, 08:58 PM

off to a bad start....i don't feel like giving you a second chance.....buh-bye....

if you need some suggestions as to other cigar boards that you might pontificate...i will help...

bigpoppapuff · 03-10-2006, 09:10 PM

out on a limb here....he didn't like the answers and will, no doubt, be a one day wonder...

**Roham** · 03-10-2006, 09:34 PM

I think you can smoke 5 cigars a day in a well ventilated area, not inhaling, and have the same chance of getting cancer as Cristopher Reeves wife....

**ggiese** · 03-10-2006, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Roham

I think you can smoke 5 cigars a day in a well ventilated area, not inhaling, and have the same chance of getting cancer as Cristopher Reeves wife....

Interesting study I read recently... Roham - did you know you have an equal change for getting lung cancer in a non-smoking eating establishment as a smoking eating establishment. Apparently, studies of the particulates in the air are nearly identical in both places...

Interesting....

**Desert Rat** · 03-10-2006, 11:48 PM

I intend to live forever and so far, it's going pretty well.

**cinda** · 03-11-2006, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by kevin7

Dont like the answers then too fucking bad dumass. I despise fucking tards coming here and asking stupid idiotic drivelish bullshit questions then getting all polly pissypants when you dont like the answer we give. Like we are all going to line up and spout off some priophetic stuff for a 2 post newbie piece of shit cumbucket. Fuck off and die for what I care douchebag or stick around because we took a poll and guess what. You are my new chew toy for a day, asshat. I hope you dont bleed freely

Kevin7. Official asshat welcoming Officer

**bsterr** · 03-11-2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by kevin7

Dont like the answers then too fucking bad dumass. I despise fucking tards coming here and asking stupid idiotic drivelish bullshit questions then getting all polly pissypants when you dont like the answer we give. Like we are all going to line up and spout off some priophetic stuff for a 2 post newbie piece of shit cumbucket. Fuck off and die for what I care douchebag or stick around because we took a poll and guess what. You are my new chew toy for a day, asshat. I hope you dont bleed freely

Kevin7. Official asshat welcoming Officer

I'm your "chewtoy", on an Internet discussion forum? Are you serious? I thought cigar smoking made people relaxed...

If you don't have a good answer, why waste your time writing up a post?

bigpoppapuff · 03-11-2006, 01:07 PM

bsterr...you're off to a really bad start here...pickingb fights with an established member is,imho,bad form....your stay,no doubt,will be short...

**drew_goring** · 03-11-2006, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by bsterr

...why waste your time writing up a post?

You should have asked yourself that same question before you started this thread fucktard.

**Cigar Jack** · 03-11-2006, 02:45 PM

Easy boys, as a mod I like to be hands off, but please turn down the Newbie Broiler just a wee bit.

bster watch it your quests seem geared to getting the kind of response you got. This group pulls no punches.

**bsterr** · 03-11-2006, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cigar Jack

Easy boys, as a mod I like to be hands off, but please turn down the Newbie Broiler just a wee bit.

bster watch it your quests seem geared to getting the kind of response you got. This group pulls no punches.

I guess my posts don't contain enough profanity or meaningless threats to fit in with the rest of your little online "community"?

If anyone's looking for a site that offers a bit more in the knowledge, respect and quality-of-humor departments, I'd recommend the forums at cigargroup.com. They also have less angry swearing and no stupid little photos and quotes after every post. Have a good weekend.

**Shagaroo** · 03-11-2006, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by bsterr

I'd recommend the forums at cigargroup.com. They also have less angry swearing and no stupid little photos and quotes after every post. Have a good weekend.

Ah, now the truth comes out. Just a spammer drumming up business. Bugger off jackass....

bigpoppapuff · 03-11-2006, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cigar Jack

Easy boys, as a mod I like to be hands off, but please turn down the Newbie Broiler just a wee bit.

bster watch it your quests seem geared to getting the kind of response you got. This group pulls no punches.

precisely the reason he was deemed an asshat this quickly......and i'm a bit pissed at your response....

bigpoppapuff · 03-11-2006, 04:36 PM

bsterr...have a good life...you turned out to be a two-day wonder......and an asshat!!!...

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**Shagaroo** · 03-11-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cigar Jack

Easy boys, as a mod I like to be hands off, but please turn down the Newbie Broiler just a wee bit.

No offense Jack, but things aren't done that way around here. I realize you are not really part of the board unless Hex is unavailable so you aren't up to speed on things, but we are a self moderated community until someone needs to get kicked to the curb. Namely, people like this asshat bsterr. Somone screws up, noob or otherwise, they get called on it. Hex likes it that way, and so do we.