Thanks mac. Yeah so far so good. I moved in with my sister and brother in law before I get married to save a few extra dollars. Haha my sister is anticigars so it's going to be a bit difficult in finding cigar time, but I'll definitely get on those that you sent. Oh and before I forget I was going to PM you the question, but I guess I'll just ask here. What were those two with no band if you don't mind me asking. Thanks again man they look great.