Partagas D4, Cohiba Robustos, newbie steps into the flames...

[bigpoppapuff]

cohibas,huh??....imagine my surprise.....i'll go out on a limb and guess that they're fake...to which you'll respond with some drivel.....

[BigMacFU]

this may be a complete scam, but gotta at least give credit that the person found out we'd tear a new one to anyone coming to do this sort of thing, and that he's not offering any kind of shipping, but straight up, I'll meet you and sell. Like Puff said, these are probably fake, but if this is a scammer, it's the most knowledgeable (of board etiquette) one yet.

[basil]

Yeah, like BigMac said, nice preface. Prices are higher than I'd have to pay, if I wanted isom's. So, not interested. Good luck, and if you are a scammer or even if you are innocently moving fakes, and you get found out, brace yourself because you're in for a world of shit.

[One Drop]

Yeah, like BigMac said, nice preface. Prices are higher than I'd have to pay, if I wanted isom's. So, not interested. Good luck, and if you are a scammer or even if you are innocently moving fakes, and you get found out, brace yourself because you're in for a world of shit.

Thanks, Basil. I've exactly no idea what isoms cost by you, I set the prices based on CDN prices (most likely I'll sell them to a fellow Canadian). I would probably go down a bit on price if someone wanted both boxes.

I wouldn't sell fakes for two reasons: I don't do that kind of thing, and I know the provenance of both these boxes. Also I'm not a very big guy, and am peaceful by nature, so I wouldn't want to get the shit kicked out of me by meeting someone face to face and having them even suspect that they weren't the real thing.

Again, I won't ship these, and I'll meet up anywhere in Montreal to make sure you can take as much time to inspect them as you'd like.

[bigpoppapuff]

i'll have my good friend and attorney,who posts on many boards as mcgoospot,tell me what he thinks...he is,imho,the most knowledgable person i know regarding cuban cigars...tell me what you can tell me regarding codes,etc...i'll call him and get an answer.....ball is in your court...

[bigpoppapuff]

and actually onedrop....i actually think you're the real deal.......you seem sincere...so after we get through this,try to stick around....

[One Drop]

That's very kind of you, Bigpoppapuff, I will.

Regarding codes, they used to be actual codes for the date and factory they were made in, but a few years ago they bowed to pressure and started putting the actual dates on the boxes, still using codes to designate the factory of manufacture. I used to know the factory codes, but stopped paying much attention a few years ago when quality control went up and they started to concentrate production of different brands in certain factories, rather than spread production of them all over ('casa matriz' is what they call this system of making each factory responsible for the majority of a brand's production). When I started smoking and selling cigars, I'd say about one in four Havanas (as they were called then) were plugged or rolled poorly. Now, maybe one or two per box of 25, regardless of vitola or brand.

The date codes work like this:

The first three letters are the factory code (secret), and the next three letters are the month in Spanish, i.e. FEB is Februario, and the last two numbers are the year of manufacture.

Please excuse me if you know all this.

The codes for the factories are pretty much an open secret, but I'd have to do some research to get back up to date. I'm sure your friend knows the score.


I've visited a few factories in Havana, and was amazed by the pride and skill of the workers, and the floor stewards and guides. As soon as they find out you know a bit about cigars, you are singled out and get very special treatment. Same thing in the Casas del Habanos.

[One Drop]

Yeah, I spend a lot of time on another board devoted to musical instruments (I play bass as a hobby)
and I know how it can feel when people blunder in, so I looked at the FAQ here, and then saw the rules, etc, and lurked a bit before jumping in so rashly.

They're Cohibas because that's the brand everyone recognises; they were bought as a gift for me by nonsmokers but I don't smoke them very often, nor Robustos in general. I like lonsdales the best, and double coronas when I have the time.

I'm aware Cohibas are the most counterfeited cigar in the world, I have no real answer for you bigpoppapuff, sorry. These are real, though. Anyone who is interested will have to decide for themselves when they inspect them.

I'm bringing them all with me to Montreal in any case, it's up to anyone interested if they want more info about me to decide if I'm legit. If you are really interested, contact me via private message, and I can give you some references and tell you my ebay name, etc. I buy and sell a lot of basses and have had great dealings with a lot of folk in the States. I'm well known here in my town and am a very public figure with nothing to hide. I live by my reputation, as I've run bars and restaurants for years.

There are still good people out there, but I know the internet is not always the best place to find them.

Thanks for not crucifying me straight off!